That's why I said vaguely

*whistle*

lol

Given you can cut out the middle man and buy/sell on eBay and the like I say used games are absolutely fine. But I wouldn't buy a game used if it was a game with only modest to low sales. Games like that need the support if they are good games. So I was always going to buy Demon's Souls and Valkyria Chonicles new. However games with moderately high sales I'll tend to buy used if they are games I only have a passing interest in and I see them available used for a real bargain price. Otherwise I'll just give them a miss entirely.

I support EA's online pass system. If you want to play online and you've bought the game used I think it's fair enough to pay a small one off cost towards the upkeep of the online component, which new game buyers are paying for up front.

I am somewhat on the opposite end.

I buy games when I see good deals and rarely buy on release week unless is one of the top games.

I've not bought any used games for forever.

I don't give priority to "low sales" items. That's not my problem. It's the publisher's job to sell the games.

I completely boycott EA for giving my systems of choice the middle finger and don't even buy their games that I am interested in that's on sale. It's my way of saying FU back :)

Even online pass doesn't make complete sense. If I go out and by Game A, I play it and I don't enjoy it and I decide to exchange it for Game B I think I might like more. The shop I exchanged at then has a used copy of Game A, which it sells at a cost lower then a new copy. Seems fair so far. Another customer then buys the cheaper used copy and plays it and enjoys it.

In the end only 1 player is playing the game. No real extra costs for the developers. 

Only issue is when Piracy becomes involved.

I don't like extra content that has to be downloaded, Mass Effect 2 for PS3 has this. There was extra content with 1 single code to use to download the content yet, if I lent that game to a friend (which I actually did) they couldn't download that DLC because of it (I assume this is the case, not tested it). I'd hope that used copies of the game in stores would have significantly less of a price then the original sale because of the non-existant content.

Then I don't usually by games used, just wait for them become cheaper as new.

The online pass does make sense though -- its goal is to either hurt the used game business by making people want online passes with used games or encourage players to buy the online pass and dlc.

Yeah I have no problem with online passes as the issue doesn't affect the devs directly.

If they are going to exist, the shops would have to really lower the cost of many games where the online feature is a big part. Games such as COD and/or Battlefield for example. While a lot of work goes into the main story, most gameplay hours are probably spent in the online mulitplayer.

My main issue with it, that the same amount of people are playing. This isn't like a pirate stealing a copy of the game and then paying for for the  online pass, it's a valid copy of the game that someone has to pay extra for to play.

I also wouldn't be able to take my copy of a game and lend it to a friend without them having to pay to play part of it, I've already paid for my cost of running the servers for me but as i'm not playing it, my friend is, they can use that 'cost'.

That's an invalid arguement as I'd dare to wager that 99.9% of those that host the client's seeds on bittorrent/pirate bay have not and will not spend a single cent on it.

They will somehow have sources or ways and means to get the file to host the seed.