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Moren on 12 April 2011
kitler53 said:
morenoingrato said:
kitler53 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

You think the 3DS cost nothing to research and make? I still think it's not the right direction, but I don't think it was cheap.

I doubt their game development studios had anything to do with R&D/making the 3DS, maybe one or two of them were involved in 3DS firmware/OS/built in games - Otherwise, what is it about 3DS that leads you to believe that the device making itself hogged enough resources to nearly halt game develpement on all their other platforms?

Besides, as I already wrote, allegedly focusing on the 3DS is no excuse for the biggest publisher on earth to be in this type of situation - Last quarter was no better: http://features.metacritic.com/features/2011/25-best-wii-games/  sad


this -- and if all the nintendo fans on this site are correct - wii/ds/3DS games are significantly less costly (i.e. take less people) to make then ps3/psp/NGP therefore nintendo ought to be able to exceed the number of first party games that sony can make.

so why is sony destroying nintendo on the number of games created over the last couple of years?


I admit, the Wii line-up is bad... but your statement is even more flawed.

Sony games cost more than Nintendo's? Maybe. Less work? No.

And Nintendo and Sony's first party has actually been pretty much on par this gen, only Sony has a better second party and much better third party, and Nintendo just doesn't know how to distribute games. They just throw it all to the end of the year.

in software cost and work are directly tied.  raw material costs don't really exist.  there is some overhead for offices but development costs are in the ballpark of 80% tied to employment.

... but hey, if you want to claim that development costs on the Wii are the same as the ps3 i'd love to quote you that.  you'd be wrong but i'll have a good time with that quote. xD

Did I ever say Nitendo games cost less than Sony's? No.

I said they take the same ammount of work or people, but less resources. You should learn to read well before responding.



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miz1q2w3e on 12 April 2011
IamAwsome said:

How are they the biggest videogame publisher on earth. Amount of money made =/= size of the company. They don't have that many studios and they are launching the 3DS. Sony on the other hand has 14 studios,  and focuses most of their attention to the PS3.  Microsoft has even less studios than Nintendo, and is their lineup stacked? The main reason that their game lineup isn't the best is because their studios are busy with the 3DS.

Hence my initial question, Where's all the money going? Not to building new development studios that's for sure. The size of their development force is nowhere near proportional to the size of their revenue - Strange isn't it?



Moren on 12 April 2011
Nintendogamer said:
morenoingrato said:
Nintendogamer said:
kitler53 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

You think the 3DS cost nothing to research and make? I still think it's not the right direction, but I don't think it was cheap.

I doubt their game development studios had anything to do with R&D/making the 3DS, maybe one or two of them were involved in 3DS firmware/OS/built in games - Otherwise, what is it about 3DS that leads you to believe that the device making itself hogged enough resources to nearly halt game develpement on all their other platforms?

Besides, as I already wrote, allegedly focusing on the 3DS is no excuse for the biggest publisher on earth to be in this type of situation - Last quarter was no better: http://features.metacritic.com/features/2011/25-best-wii-games/  sad


this -- and if all the nintendo fans on this site are correct - wii/ds/3DS games are significantly less costly (i.e. take less people) to make then ps3/psp/NGP therefore nintendo ought to be able to exceed the number of first party games that sony can make.

so why is sony destroying nintendo on the number of games created over the last couple of years?

Nintendo want people to save a bit of cash rather than spend far too much on games they will play and forget.

If so, this line-up means Nintendo LOVES to have us saving our cash.


Save cash for something big down the line I meant.

Pathetic.

So you're saying that Nitendo just doesn't release good games so we can purschase more games in the future? That's laughable.

Their line-up is terrible, they just couldn't manage themseles well, I feel they deserve to be outsold weekly, they haven't even tried to give us something decent.



Nintendogamer on 12 April 2011
Machina said:
Nintendogamer said:
kitler53 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

You think the 3DS cost nothing to research and make? I still think it's not the right direction, but I don't think it was cheap.

I doubt their game development studios had anything to do with R&D/making the 3DS, maybe one or two of them were involved in 3DS firmware/OS/built in games - Otherwise, what is it about 3DS that leads you to believe that the device making itself hogged enough resources to nearly halt game develpement on all their other platforms?

Besides, as I already wrote, allegedly focusing on the 3DS is no excuse for the biggest publisher on earth to be in this type of situation - Last quarter was no better: http://features.metacritic.com/features/2011/25-best-wii-games/  sad


this -- and if all the nintendo fans on this site are correct - wii/ds/3DS games are significantly less costly (i.e. take less people) to make then ps3/psp/NGP therefore nintendo ought to be able to exceed the number of first party games that sony can make.

so why is sony destroying nintendo on the number of games created over the last couple of years?

Nintendo want people to save a bit of cash rather than spend far too much on games they will play and forget.

Am I reading this right? Are you seriously saying you think Nintendo have intentionally not released anything of note in Q1 and Q2 to help people save money for Zelda or something? Honestly, words fail me.

I didn't think the old 'they're doing it to give third parties a chance' excuse could be bested, but you've somehow managed it.

There could be more games in Q4, and having lots of quality titles within 3 months can't be a good thing, you'll end up spending a fortune.



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Seece on 12 April 2011

Yay, moreintonagro, I'm impressed (somewhat) with you.



 

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Nintendogamer on 12 April 2011
Seece said:
Nintendogamer said:
morenoingrato said:
Nintendogamer said:
kitler53 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

You think the 3DS cost nothing to research and make? I still think it's not the right direction, but I don't think it was cheap.

I doubt their game development studios had anything to do with R&D/making the 3DS, maybe one or two of them were involved in 3DS firmware/OS/built in games - Otherwise, what is it about 3DS that leads you to believe that the device making itself hogged enough resources to nearly halt game develpement on all their other platforms?

Besides, as I already wrote, allegedly focusing on the 3DS is no excuse for the biggest publisher on earth to be in this type of situation - Last quarter was no better: http://features.metacritic.com/features/2011/25-best-wii-games/  sad


this -- and if all the nintendo fans on this site are correct - wii/ds/3DS games are significantly less costly (i.e. take less people) to make then ps3/psp/NGP therefore nintendo ought to be able to exceed the number of first party games that sony can make.

so why is sony destroying nintendo on the number of games created over the last couple of years?

Nintendo want people to save a bit of cash rather than spend far too much on games they will play and forget.

If so, this line-up means Nintendo LOVES to have us saving our cash.


Save cash for something big down the line I meant.

LOL the most LOL excuse I've ever seen for a quiet period. You don't see me pulling the same BS when it comes to MS. No, I just admit they don't give a fuck and they're doing it all wrong.

Set yourself free and see the light, you'll feel better!!


If I did the same with N you 'll be making fun of me still.



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mario maker

new 3ds

yoshi woolly world

zelda U

majora's mask 3d

Seece on 12 April 2011
Nintendogamer said:
Seece said:

LOL the most LOL excuse I've ever seen for a quiet period. You don't see me pulling the same BS when it comes to MS. No, I just admit they don't give a fuck and they're doing it all wrong.

Set yourself free and see the light, you'll feel better!!


If I did the same with N you 'll be making fun of me still.

No I wouldn't.



 

Nintendogamer on 12 April 2011
morenoingrato said:
Nintendogamer said:
morenoingrato said:
Nintendogamer said:
kitler53 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

You think the 3DS cost nothing to research and make? I still think it's not the right direction, but I don't think it was cheap.

I doubt their game development studios had anything to do with R&D/making the 3DS, maybe one or two of them were involved in 3DS firmware/OS/built in games - Otherwise, what is it about 3DS that leads you to believe that the device making itself hogged enough resources to nearly halt game develpement on all their other platforms?

Besides, as I already wrote, allegedly focusing on the 3DS is no excuse for the biggest publisher on earth to be in this type of situation - Last quarter was no better: http://features.metacritic.com/features/2011/25-best-wii-games/  sad


this -- and if all the nintendo fans on this site are correct - wii/ds/3DS games are significantly less costly (i.e. take less people) to make then ps3/psp/NGP therefore nintendo ought to be able to exceed the number of first party games that sony can make.

so why is sony destroying nintendo on the number of games created over the last couple of years?

Nintendo want people to save a bit of cash rather than spend far too much on games they will play and forget.

If so, this line-up means Nintendo LOVES to have us saving our cash.


Save cash for something big down the line I meant.

Pathetic.

So you're saying that Nitendo just doesn't release good games so we can purschase more games in the future? That's laughable.

Their line-up is terrible, they just couldn't manage themseles well, I feel they deserve to be outsold weekly, they haven't even tried to give us something decent.

Always the case with Nintendo that's why previous Nintendo consoles have sold quite poorly.



Buying in 2015: Captain toad: treasure tracker,

mario maker

new 3ds

yoshi woolly world

zelda U

majora's mask 3d

LordTheNightKnight on 12 April 2011
morenoingrato said:


It is still no excuse, Sony is making the NGP, and are still having some pretty great PS3 games on the near future.

And the cost thing is BS, the games costed considerably less than many others, and sell 20 million .... I don't know how it doesn't turn into mass profit.


How is Sony's situation proof of Nintendo's? Not only are they are larger company, they didn't release a new system, and Nintendo has.

Plus making lots of money doesn't mean making lots of games. That can cause saturation, and thin out the talent. Look at EA.

The 3DS, in all likelyhood, used up talent resources to make both the system and the first waves of games. The next wave of Wii games is likely coming, but the work on the other system caused this gap. You can't buy Miyamoto and co. into being in two places at once.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Nintendogamer on 12 April 2011
Seece said:
Nintendogamer said:
Seece said:

LOL the most LOL excuse I've ever seen for a quiet period. You don't see me pulling the same BS when it comes to MS. No, I just admit they don't give a fuck and they're doing it all wrong.

Set yourself free and see the light, you'll feel better!!


If I did the same with N you 'll be making fun of me still.

No I wouldn't.

Yes you would, you would say something like " What's the matter? Nintendo upsetting you ;)".  If I complained like Moreningrato did you'de laugh at me.



Buying in 2015: Captain toad: treasure tracker,

mario maker

new 3ds

yoshi woolly world

zelda U

majora's mask 3d