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M.U.G.E.N on 12 April 2011
Nintendogamer said:
kitler53 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

You think the 3DS cost nothing to research and make? I still think it's not the right direction, but I don't think it was cheap.

I doubt their game development studios had anything to do with R&D/making the 3DS, maybe one or two of them were involved in 3DS firmware/OS/built in games - Otherwise, what is it about 3DS that leads you to believe that the device making itself hogged enough resources to nearly halt game develpement on all their other platforms?

Besides, as I already wrote, allegedly focusing on the 3DS is no excuse for the biggest publisher on earth to be in this type of situation - Last quarter was no better: http://features.metacritic.com/features/2011/25-best-wii-games/  sad


this -- and if all the nintendo fans on this site are correct - wii/ds/3DS games are significantly less costly (i.e. take less people) to make then ps3/psp/NGP therefore nintendo ought to be able to exceed the number of first party games that sony can make.

so why is sony destroying nintendo on the number of games created over the last couple of years?

Nintendo want people to save a bit of cash rather than spend far too much on games they will play and forget.


good thing sony is making some great memorable games with great online or other factors to keep playing them. phew

anywho I think if we go down this sony vs Ninty first party line up it will just derail from the topic at hand...so let's just leave that one be for a different thread dedicated to it



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Moren on 12 April 2011
Nintendogamer said:
kitler53 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

You think the 3DS cost nothing to research and make? I still think it's not the right direction, but I don't think it was cheap.

I doubt their game development studios had anything to do with R&D/making the 3DS, maybe one or two of them were involved in 3DS firmware/OS/built in games - Otherwise, what is it about 3DS that leads you to believe that the device making itself hogged enough resources to nearly halt game develpement on all their other platforms?

Besides, as I already wrote, allegedly focusing on the 3DS is no excuse for the biggest publisher on earth to be in this type of situation - Last quarter was no better: http://features.metacritic.com/features/2011/25-best-wii-games/  sad


this -- and if all the nintendo fans on this site are correct - wii/ds/3DS games are significantly less costly (i.e. take less people) to make then ps3/psp/NGP therefore nintendo ought to be able to exceed the number of first party games that sony can make.

so why is sony destroying nintendo on the number of games created over the last couple of years?

Nintendo want people to save a bit of cash rather than spend far too much on games they will play and forget.

If so, this line-up means Nintendo LOVES to have us saving our cash.



IamAwsome on 12 April 2011
miz1q2w3e said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
miz1q2w3e said:

What are they doing with all the money they make on the 10 and 20 million sellers that cost near nothing to make?


1. They don't cost nothing. That's a myth by people who want to put down those games.

2. They made and launched the 3DS. Plus they are still working on big games like Zelda.

1. I said near nothing - as in a very small amount compared to other better games yet the revenue they produce is ten times greater

2. That's no excuse at all - Besides, 3DS isn't that much better off anyway, only one game and it's just a port/remake - - - - And Zelda SS was supposed to be released last year

Nintendo is literally the biggest videogame publisher on earth and arguably the best - This game lineup certainly does not reflect that one bit

How are they the biggest videogame publisher on earth. Amount of money made =/= size of the company. They don't have that many studios and they are launching the 3DS. Sony on the other hand has 14 studios,  and focuses most of their attention to the PS3.  Microsoft has even less studios than Nintendo, and is their lineup stacked? The main reason that their game lineup isn't the best is because their studios are busy with the 3DS.



LordTheNightKnight on 12 April 2011
morenoingrato said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
miz1q2w3e said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

You think the 3DS cost nothing to research and make? I still think it's not the right direction, but I don't think it was cheap.

I doubt their game development studios had anything to do with R&D/making the 3DS, maybe one or two of them were involved in 3DS firmware/OS/built in games - Otherwise, what is it about 3DS that leads you to believe that the device making itself hogged enough resources to nearly halt game develpement on all their other platforms?

Besides, as I already wrote, allegedly focusing on the 3DS is no excuse for the biggest publisher on earth to be in this type of situation - Last quarter was no better: http://features.metacritic.com/features/2011/25-best-wii-games/  sad


1. You think the money for hardware development and the money for game developmet are magically separate? That is what that comment implied. If they are spending money on a major system, they will have less money at the time for some of their games.

2. You're using metacritic to judge the money Nintendo is making. Reviews are NOT SALES.

No, he is looking at how terrible the Q1 lineup was, there is just no excuse, Q2 is even more horrible than Q1, I even wonder why Nintendo released that list, it was just to embarass themselves.


I'm NOT calling on that. I'm calling on this claim:

"What are they doing with all the money they make on the 10 and 20 million sellers that cost near nothing to make?"

And the claim that the 3DS somehow didn't take away resources (including money and manpower) from Wii development, or even major Wii games coming later (since they need to prove Motion Plus can outdo the motion controllers on the other systems).

I agree that the lineup now sucks, but that doesn't mean this situation just happened for no reason.



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kitler53 on 12 April 2011
morenoingrato said:
kitler53 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

You think the 3DS cost nothing to research and make? I still think it's not the right direction, but I don't think it was cheap.

I doubt their game development studios had anything to do with R&D/making the 3DS, maybe one or two of them were involved in 3DS firmware/OS/built in games - Otherwise, what is it about 3DS that leads you to believe that the device making itself hogged enough resources to nearly halt game develpement on all their other platforms?

Besides, as I already wrote, allegedly focusing on the 3DS is no excuse for the biggest publisher on earth to be in this type of situation - Last quarter was no better: http://features.metacritic.com/features/2011/25-best-wii-games/  sad


this -- and if all the nintendo fans on this site are correct - wii/ds/3DS games are significantly less costly (i.e. take less people) to make then ps3/psp/NGP therefore nintendo ought to be able to exceed the number of first party games that sony can make.

so why is sony destroying nintendo on the number of games created over the last couple of years?


I admit, the Wii line-up is bad... but your statement is even more flawed.

Sony games cost more than Nintendo's? Maybe. Less work? No.

And Nintendo and Sony's first party has actually been pretty much on par this gen, only Sony has a better second party and much better third party, and Nintendo just doesn't know how to distribute games. They just throw it all to the end of the year.

in software cost and work are directly tied.  raw material costs don't really exist.  there is some overhead for offices but development costs are in the ballpark of 80% tied to employment.

... but hey, if you want to claim that development costs on the Wii are the same as the ps3 i'd love to quote you that.  you'd be wrong but i'll have a good time with that quote. xD



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Nintendogamer on 12 April 2011
morenoingrato said:
Nintendogamer said:
kitler53 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

You think the 3DS cost nothing to research and make? I still think it's not the right direction, but I don't think it was cheap.

I doubt their game development studios had anything to do with R&D/making the 3DS, maybe one or two of them were involved in 3DS firmware/OS/built in games - Otherwise, what is it about 3DS that leads you to believe that the device making itself hogged enough resources to nearly halt game develpement on all their other platforms?

Besides, as I already wrote, allegedly focusing on the 3DS is no excuse for the biggest publisher on earth to be in this type of situation - Last quarter was no better: http://features.metacritic.com/features/2011/25-best-wii-games/  sad


this -- and if all the nintendo fans on this site are correct - wii/ds/3DS games are significantly less costly (i.e. take less people) to make then ps3/psp/NGP therefore nintendo ought to be able to exceed the number of first party games that sony can make.

so why is sony destroying nintendo on the number of games created over the last couple of years?

Nintendo want people to save a bit of cash rather than spend far too much on games they will play and forget.

If so, this line-up means Nintendo LOVES to have us saving our cash.


Save cash for something big down the line I meant.



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Linkasf on 12 April 2011

Well Nintendo, you freakin lazy idiots. What are your dev teams working on? Seriously I'm also dissapointed in that crappy list of Wii games. I guess this gen I'll be focusing only my the 3DS and the occasional PC game. So sad.



Moren on 12 April 2011
LordTheNightKnight said:
morenoingrato said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
miz1q2w3e said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

You think the 3DS cost nothing to research and make? I still think it's not the right direction, but I don't think it was cheap.

I doubt their game development studios had anything to do with R&D/making the 3DS, maybe one or two of them were involved in 3DS firmware/OS/built in games - Otherwise, what is it about 3DS that leads you to believe that the device making itself hogged enough resources to nearly halt game develpement on all their other platforms?

Besides, as I already wrote, allegedly focusing on the 3DS is no excuse for the biggest publisher on earth to be in this type of situation - Last quarter was no better: http://features.metacritic.com/features/2011/25-best-wii-games/  sad


1. You think the money for hardware development and the money for game developmet are magically separate? That is what that comment implied. If they are spending money on a major system, they will have less money at the time for some of their games.

2. You're using metacritic to judge the money Nintendo is making. Reviews are NOT SALES.

No, he is looking at how terrible the Q1 lineup was, there is just no excuse, Q2 is even more horrible than Q1, I even wonder why Nintendo released that list, it was just to embarass themselves.


I'm NOT calling on that. I'm calling on this claim:

"What are they doing with all the money they make on the 10 and 20 million sellers that cost near nothing to make?"

And the claim that the 3DS somehow didn't take away resources (including money and manpower) from Wii development, or even major Wii games coming later (since they need to prove Motion Plus can outdo the motion controllers on the other systems).

I agree that the lineup now sucks, but that doesn't mean this situation just happened for no reason.


It is still no excuse, Sony is making the NGP, and are still having some pretty great PS3 games on the near future.

And the cost thing is BS, the games costed considerably less than many others, and sell 20 million .... I don't know how it doesn't turn into mass profit.



Raze on 12 April 2011

Huh, maybe a successor to the Wii might just come at the end of 2012 afterall, just in time for the world to end

Conduit 2 will be worht checking out I think, and I might be a fan of Mystery Case files, if its done well. Time will tell.



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Seece on 12 April 2011
Nintendogamer said:
morenoingrato said:
Nintendogamer said:
kitler53 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

You think the 3DS cost nothing to research and make? I still think it's not the right direction, but I don't think it was cheap.

I doubt their game development studios had anything to do with R&D/making the 3DS, maybe one or two of them were involved in 3DS firmware/OS/built in games - Otherwise, what is it about 3DS that leads you to believe that the device making itself hogged enough resources to nearly halt game develpement on all their other platforms?

Besides, as I already wrote, allegedly focusing on the 3DS is no excuse for the biggest publisher on earth to be in this type of situation - Last quarter was no better: http://features.metacritic.com/features/2011/25-best-wii-games/  sad


this -- and if all the nintendo fans on this site are correct - wii/ds/3DS games are significantly less costly (i.e. take less people) to make then ps3/psp/NGP therefore nintendo ought to be able to exceed the number of first party games that sony can make.

so why is sony destroying nintendo on the number of games created over the last couple of years?

Nintendo want people to save a bit of cash rather than spend far too much on games they will play and forget.

If so, this line-up means Nintendo LOVES to have us saving our cash.


Save cash for something big down the line I meant.

LOL the most LOL excuse I've ever seen for a quiet period. You don't see me pulling the same BS when it comes to MS. No, I just admit they don't give a fuck and they're doing it all wrong.

Set yourself free and see the light, you'll feel better!!