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An immoral relationship?

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Penny Lawrence & Her Dad Garry Ryan Reunite, Fall in Love, Have Baby Together

In today's episode of Great Moral Dilemmas of the Day, we bring you the tale of Garry Ryan. He's an Irishman who moved to Texas when he was young. That's where he met another woman, who became pregnant. He claims he wanted to do the right thing and marry the lass...

But he also claims her parents disapproved. So he took off, and the woman returned to Ireland, where she gave birth to Penny Lawrence 28 years ago.

Penny's mom would die when she was just four. So she went to live with her grandparents. But they died when she was 18.

By the time she reached 27, she became curious about finding her real father. So last year, she tracked Ryan down in Houston. They began talking by phone. Soon, Penny flew to Texas for a visit, and that's where our story gets downright creepy.

Both say they were hit by instant attraction when they met. They began to date. Now Penny is pregnant with their child.

We think we can speak for most dads by saying that anyone who has sexual thoughts about their daughter is surely a degenerate. But the couple is couching their romance is psychology, saying their both afflicted by Genetic Sexual Attraction, a shrink term used to describe relatives who fall in love when they first meet as adults.

They know their relationship is illegal, and they worry that the cops may come a calling. But they also say their unborn baby is healthy after three months, and claim they're victims, not incestuous freaks.

"We are not committing incest, but are victims of GSA," Penny told Irish Central. "We've never experienced a father-daughter relationship, so we're just like any other strangers who meet in adulthood."

Here in the manly heartland of America, we're not really buying that bullshit. But we'd like to know what you think, dearest reader. (Special thanks to reader Lavender for the tip.)



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Genetic sexual attraction seems to be true from the little bit of reading I've done, it's because you're genetically programmed to like people who share traits with you. Without knowing each other through childhood the mechanisms to prevent incest never kick in.

 

These two shouldn't be having kids though that's for sure, way too closer relatives gives way too high a chance of messing up their baby. Also while personally I find the idea of the relationship disturbing, if they didn't have kids and they're two consenting adults - who's being hurt?



need pics before I judge..

and I can't believe galaki didn't pick up the story below it: Tericka Dye, High School Science Teacher, Resigns After Being Outed as Former Porn Star.



 

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NiKKoM said:

need pics before I judge..

and I can't believe galaki didn't pick up the story below it: Tericka Dye, High School Science Teacher, Resigns After Being Outed as Former Porn Star.


I didn't find that story to be contriversial :)



They're adults, they can decide what they want to do. I do hope that the baby's health will be monitored very closely though - any diseases that run in their family has a stronger chance of being passed on to the child (grandchild?). Maybe an amniocentesis?



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Well... ususually the biggest issue with sexual relationships among family members is that one holds power over the other so you question whether there could ever be an "equal" relationship or wheter one was "coached" to feel that way.

That didn't happen in this case... it'd still be iffy to me until I learned more, but as it stands now, I do have a hard time saying this is any different from anything else.



In theory I have little issue with incest, though it raises many issues, mainly in regards to power dynamics between the parent and the child.

However the biggest problem here is that they're having a child. The risk of the child developing harmful mutations is from what I understand higher? Considering the already precarious nature of pregnancy anyway this just amplifies the potential problems for the child. Hopefully thats not the case since she's already pregnant, hopefully this child is one of the lucky ones and is healthy.



Kasz216 said:

Well... ususually the biggest issue with sexual relationships among family members is that one holds power over the other so you question whether there could ever be an "equal" relationship or wheter one was "coached" to feel that way.

That didn't happen in this case... it'd still be iffy to me until I learned more, but as it stands now, I do have a hard time saying this is any different from anything else.

My thoughts exactly. The main reasons against relationships with immediate family are genetic defects (much rarer than most people believe, though) and the dominant/submissive roles generally found in parent/child relationships. The second may not be the case here because of the odd circumstances.




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NiKKoM said:

need pics before I judge..

You are a man after my own heart.



i would have been less uncomfortable were it a chance encounter and they were unaware of their biological relationship....



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