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Conegamer on 05 April 2011
oniyide said:

@conegamer i hope ToG is a surprise for all our sakes. DKCR and Kirby are all Ninty games they always pull this shite about putting their best stuff at the tail end of the year. We knew about GE prior to E3 and Wii Party is another Ninty title (not a good one IMHO) which is kind of my point we can only go by what we know right NOW. and what i know right now, im not impressed with the line up Zelda is lterally the only game for Wii i care about this year

No. We didn't know about GE prior to E3. There were a few rumours, but not at this point in the year...

As for Wii Party...I enjoy that, but only with my friends. Solo it's terrible.

I agree with you about putting everything at the end of the year (portion control???) but I can see at least 5 must-have games from Nintendo at E3, which haven't been confirmed for the West, 3 unknowns (Pikmin? Starfox? etc.), The Last Story and Tales Of Graces. That's my guess



 

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oniyide on 05 April 2011

^^^ GE had rumors, so the public did know it was coming, that more than I can say for TLS and a few other titles. 5 must haves for Wii??? I doubt it. You have more faith than i do. I wouldnt mind i cant keep giving Sony all my money



SnesTea on 05 April 2011
Salnax said:

This entire affair is ridiculous.

The Wii has had a grand total of ONE notable title this year: Mario Sports Mix. And that's only outside of Japan.

The only upcoming game that's likely to matter is Skyward Sword.

The price has barely fallen since 2006.

The most sucessful game at the moment is a party game with a 74% on Metacritic.

The 360 had had a recent relaunch, and it and the PS3 have gotten Marvel vs Capcom 3, Dead Space 2, Killzone 3, LittleBigPlanet 2, Dynasty Warriors 7, Homefront, Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age 2, Crysis 2, and Bulletstorm.

And the Wii is still on par...

This is like watching two athletes barely keeping up with a fat guy with a broken hip. It's also a testament to the fact that the Wii is essentially indestructable.

I'm pretty sure the Wii will outsell its competirors this year.

The following post is a complete troll.

Bold 1: Isn't the Last Story coming out this year? Probably. :P

Bold Italics: 50 bucks. And it comes with more stuff than it did then.

Bold 2: You say it like 74% is so bad. That's an above average game. Or do you use faggot Game Informer scale instead of the perfection of Electronic Gaming Monthly? Thought so.

Underline: Sequel, shooter*, shooter*, sequel, sequel**, shooter*, shooter*, sequel, shooter*, original game.

* crap ** crap

I did it for the lulz.



chocoloco on 05 April 2011
Play4Fun said:
chocoloco said:
Conegamer said:
chocoloco said:
RolStoppable said:
chocoloco said:

I hate to say this, but I dont understand the llongivity of the enjoyment of the wii. I played a few decent games and gave it to my step mom, she quit wii fit. My two step bros who owna 360 and ps3 between them never play the wii. it just sits there with four potential gamers having no interest.

I am just writing this to say I am shocked by anyone that can be amused by the wii alone for more than a year. It only amused me for ABOUT 4 MONTHS AND THAN i REALIZED i HAD PLAYED MOST OF THE GAMES BY nINTENDO ALREADY WORTH PLAYING.

I just can't see enjoyment longevity in that system.

The idea of consoles is to buy new games, if you are getting bored of the ones you own.

Yeah, but when you got a 360 and ps3 you have many options all I am saying is I think the options are less exciting than the other two systems which eventually ltranslates to less sales. Like comparing the wii in 2008 or 2009 to 2011. The other systems just have more options ifor me and my step famalies preferances. Only an anecdote, but I don't care.

Have you thought about maybe...looking into the games they have? Look at the Wii reccomendation guide if you need help.

I have around 65 games for my Wii, and it's my console of choice, despite having the other home consoles. I just think the games are better. It just takes a long time to find good games, but '10 shows that quality Wii games are plentiful. If you can't find any games which interest you then you're missing out, I'm sure plenty of people will tell you that

Your preference is cool, but i truthfully think most games the wii sells would be $10-$15 games sold on xbox arcade or psn network. I'm thinking of games like flower, castle chrashers, braid, trine, splosionion man, ilomilo, fat princesss, shadow complex, and Laura Croft and the gaurdian of light, not to mention many more I have not played. I hate to say it, but many of the wii games cost $50 dollars that are equivalent or worse than the games i mentioned and others sold at a more fair rate through psn and arcade.


Not this shit again.

So my opinion is shit,I am tempted to report you. I own all three systems so I can say that I think it is the case for many wii games especially 2D platformers.



Conegamer on 05 April 2011
oniyide said:

^^^ GE had rumors, so the public did know it was coming, that more than I can say for TLS and a few other titles. 5 must haves for Wii??? I doubt it. You have more faith than i do. I wouldnt mind i cant keep giving Sony all my money

Well, let's just assume a few things here. Last year we had:

  • Goldeneye
  • DKCR
  • Kirby's Epic Yarn
  • Wii Party
This year? We'll have:
  • Tales of Graces
  • The Last Story
  • Pikmin 3
  • Unknown 1
  • Unknown 2
  • Zelda
So already the line-up is looking potentially better. It's up to what Nintendo wish to do from here on in though


 

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oniyide on 05 April 2011

^^^ you have two unknowns, Pikmin 3 might come out, not trying to take away from Pikmin but that isnt a huge franchise. We dont know what system TOG is coming too, how are you sure that it is even coming to Wii. Zelda is the only thing to be sure about. Looking at last years lineup that aint very impressive and looking at this year even less so. lets not assume anything and go by what we know for sure is coming out, at least thats what im gonna do, cause you know what they say about assuming



Games4Fun on 05 April 2011
chocoloco said:
Play4Fun said:
chocoloco said:
Conegamer said:
chocoloco said:
RolStoppable said:
chocoloco said:

I hate to say this, but I dont understand the llongivity of the enjoyment of the wii. I played a few decent games and gave it to my step mom, she quit wii fit. My two step bros who owna 360 and ps3 between them never play the wii. it just sits there with four potential gamers having no interest.

I am just writing this to say I am shocked by anyone that can be amused by the wii alone for more than a year. It only amused me for ABOUT 4 MONTHS AND THAN i REALIZED i HAD PLAYED MOST OF THE GAMES BY nINTENDO ALREADY WORTH PLAYING.

I just can't see enjoyment longevity in that system.

The idea of consoles is to buy new games, if you are getting bored of the ones you own.

Yeah, but when you got a 360 and ps3 you have many options all I am saying is I think the options are less exciting than the other two systems which eventually ltranslates to less sales. Like comparing the wii in 2008 or 2009 to 2011. The other systems just have more options ifor me and my step famalies preferances. Only an anecdote, but I don't care.

Have you thought about maybe...looking into the games they have? Look at the Wii reccomendation guide if you need help.

I have around 65 games for my Wii, and it's my console of choice, despite having the other home consoles. I just think the games are better. It just takes a long time to find good games, but '10 shows that quality Wii games are plentiful. If you can't find any games which interest you then you're missing out, I'm sure plenty of people will tell you that

Your preference is cool, but i truthfully think most games the wii sells would be $10-$15 games sold on xbox arcade or psn network. I'm thinking of games like flower, castle chrashers, braid, trine, splosionion man, ilomilo, fat princesss, shadow complex, and Laura Croft and the gaurdian of light, not to mention many more I have not played. I hate to say it, but many of the wii games cost $50 dollars that are equivalent or worse than the games i mentioned and others sold at a more fair rate through psn and arcade.


Not this shit again.

So my opinion is shit,I am tempted to report you. I own all three systems so I can say that I think it is the case for many wii games especially 2D platformers.

To be honest you are pretty much flamebaiting, but it doesnt really matter. For everyone who feels the way you do theres just as many that feel that way about the games you enjoy. Same with the games. For every example of a $50 dollar game you feel is worth 15 theres just as many 50-60 ones on your system people feel are worth 15 or less too. Does it really matter to anyone not running a buisness involved? No. Some people need to learn to enjoy their games and stop degrading what someone else likes because they dont. Having a actual discussion as to why you feel this or that way can be interesting, but not with such attitudes normally found on these boards.



chocoloco on 05 April 2011
Games4Fun said:
chocoloco said:
Play4Fun said:
chocoloco said:
Conegamer said:
chocoloco said:

Yeah, but when you got a 360 and ps3 you have many options all I am saying is I think the options are less exciting than the other two systems which eventually ltranslates to less sales. Like comparing the wii in 2008 or 2009 to 2011. The other systems just have more options ifor me and my step famalies preferances. Only an anecdote, but I don't care.

Have you thought about maybe...looking into the games they have? Look at the Wii reccomendation guide if you need help.

I have around 65 games for my Wii, and it's my console of choice, despite having the other home consoles. I just think the games are better. It just takes a long time to find good games, but '10 shows that quality Wii games are plentiful. If you can't find any games which interest you then you're missing out, I'm sure plenty of people will tell you that

Your preference is cool, but i truthfully think most games the wii sells would be $10-$15 games sold on xbox arcade or psn network. I'm thinking of games like flower, castle chrashers, braid, trine, splosionion man, ilomilo, fat princesss, shadow complex, and Laura Croft and the gaurdian of light, not to mention many more I have not played. I hate to say it, but many of the wii games cost $50 dollars that are equivalent or worse than the games i mentioned and others sold at a more fair rate through psn and arcade.


Not this shit again.

So my opinion is shit,I am tempted to report you. I own all three systems so I can say that I think it is the case for many wii games especially 2D platformers.

To be honest you are pretty much flamebaiting, but it doesnt really matter. For everyone who feels the way you do theres just as many that feel that way about the games you enjoy. Same with the games. For every example of a $50 dollar game you feel is worth 15 theres just as many 50-60 ones on your system people feel are worth 15 or less too. Does it really matter to anyone not running a buisness involved? No. Some people need to learn to enjoy their games and stop degrading what someone else likes because they dont. Having a actual discussion as to why you feel this or that way can be interesting, but not with such attitudes normally found on these boards.


Since when is giving an opinion thart may not be popular flaimbaiting, If we al agreed we would be boring, smiling zommies running aroung tipping my hat at  everyone say "good day kind sir."  I think unless yoyu hace all three systems like me you can not compare my opinion

Most peoples opinions are base of of limited experience with ome console, my experience comes from owning and playing all three consoles. So I can claim to be somewhat fair and balncedin my opinion. Once again the key word is opinion.



Games4Fun on 05 April 2011
chocoloco said:
Games4Fun said:
chocoloco said:
Play4Fun said:
chocoloco said:
Conegamer said:
chocoloco said:

Yeah, but when you got a 360 and ps3 you have many options all I am saying is I think the options are less exciting than the other two systems which eventually ltranslates to less sales. Like comparing the wii in 2008 or 2009 to 2011. The other systems just have more options ifor me and my step famalies preferances. Only an anecdote, but I don't care.

Have you thought about maybe...looking into the games they have? Look at the Wii reccomendation guide if you need help.

I have around 65 games for my Wii, and it's my console of choice, despite having the other home consoles. I just think the games are better. It just takes a long time to find good games, but '10 shows that quality Wii games are plentiful. If you can't find any games which interest you then you're missing out, I'm sure plenty of people will tell you that

Your preference is cool, but i truthfully think most games the wii sells would be $10-$15 games sold on xbox arcade or psn network. I'm thinking of games like flower, castle chrashers, braid, trine, splosionion man, ilomilo, fat princesss, shadow complex, and Laura Croft and the gaurdian of light, not to mention many more I have not played. I hate to say it, but many of the wii games cost $50 dollars that are equivalent or worse than the games i mentioned and others sold at a more fair rate through psn and arcade.


Not this shit again.

So my opinion is shit,I am tempted to report you. I own all three systems so I can say that I think it is the case for many wii games especially 2D platformers.

To be honest you are pretty much flamebaiting, but it doesnt really matter. For everyone who feels the way you do theres just as many that feel that way about the games you enjoy. Same with the games. For every example of a $50 dollar game you feel is worth 15 theres just as many 50-60 ones on your system people feel are worth 15 or less too. Does it really matter to anyone not running a buisness involved? No. Some people need to learn to enjoy their games and stop degrading what someone else likes because they dont. Having a actual discussion as to why you feel this or that way can be interesting, but not with such attitudes normally found on these boards.


Since when is giving an opinion thart may not be popular flaimbaiting, If we al agreed we would be boring, smiling zommies running aroung tipping my hat at  everyone say "good day kind sir."  I think unless yoyu hace all three systems like me you can not compare my opinion

Most peoples opinions are base of of limited experience with ome console, my experience comes from owning and playing all three consoles. So I can claim to be somewhat fair and balncedin my opinion. Once again the key word is opinion.

Or its there experience with consoles from past gens included. Not everyone goes out and buys a console they are unsure about. So owning or not owning doesnt really matter. IF they played games on a system and know they are not into it why would they waste money on it?Theres a reason why they didnt purchase it, or did and got rid of it in the past. Sure they have not played every game that console has to try but really who has? Even the ones that own the system dont like everygame and disagree on them.

I  want to know where I implied everyone needs to agree and be all happy. What I said is discussions can be interesting, but not with a lot of the types on these boards. For instance flamebaiting. Disliking a game or a system is different then degrading it. Theres reasons why you feel some game is worth 15. That can be a discussion.  You have been on these boards long enough to know what will and wont piss some people off. Examples: Wii is for the kiddies, PS3 has no games: Wii is doomed: Xbox is nothing but shooters: etc etc Its not hard to get a opinion across in a respectable manner.



Play4Fun on 05 April 2011
chocoloco said:
Play4Fun said:
chocoloco said:
Conegamer said:
chocoloco said:
RolStoppable said:
 

 



 

 

Your preference is cool, but i truthfully think most games the wii sells would be $10-$15 games sold on xbox arcade or psn network. I'm thinking of games like flower, castle chrashers, braid, trine, splosionion man, ilomilo, fat princesss, shadow complex, and Laura Croft and the gaurdian of light, not to mention many more I have not played. I hate to say it, but many of the wii games cost $50 dollars that are equivalent or worse than the games i mentioned and others sold at a more fair rate through psn and arcade.


Not this shit again.

So my opinion is shit,I am tempted to report you. I own all three systems so I can say that I think it is the case for many wii games especially 2D platformers.

Not this shit again.

=p

While I do agree with you about some Wii games not being worth $50 (some of the really crappy shovelware from lazy 3RD party games and half-assed attempts at ports), I guess the reason I over-reacted to your post was that I use to post on another baord where posters would say Wii games aren't worth the same as HD games because of the graphics or that 2D games on Wii are worth as much as arcade games on HD consoles. That use to really piss me off!

Edit: Whoa! wait a minute! I just really noticed the 'especially 2D platformers part'

So I'll say this once more:

Not this shit again.