who cares pc gaming lame
1 Way PC Gaming hurts Console Gaming : Pc gamers whine so much that it has become boring, oh sorry, that doesn't hurt Console gaming.

Kudistos Megistos said:
How is it possible to get so much wrong in such a short post?
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Feel free to prove me wrong, everything I stated was fact.

brendude13 said:
Feel free to prove me wrong, everything I stated was fact. |
I had a computer during the NES/SNES era. They were called 286/386/486. They mainly used DOS operating system to play games on and there were such classic like Command & Conquer, Magic Carpet, Sim City, Sim Theme Park, Warcraft, etc... Just because you or your friends didn't have a computer during that era didn't mean others weren't gaming on the PC. DOS gaming was decently popular back in the day and not some barely used system. My most found memories of PC gaming would be playing against my friends on a 14.4 or 28k modem with games such as Duke Nukem 3D and Red Alert.
Apple II gaming was where it was at.
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Final-Fan said:
It's true that I didn't buy the StarCraft II computer game just for the box and the plastic coaster within. But on the other hand, it's a long established practice, and one I fully support, that the physical product is a transferrable license to the content within, either on paper or on disk. TRANSFERRABLE. The concept of "ownership" to me implies the power over what is done from that point on with the product, which is why I hate non-resellable games. Let me go into detail below. |
Let me just say this to make it clear, I am totally agreeing with you that the used market is just fine.I also like your string analogy and fully agree with it to view it as a form of property.
I didn't make this clear enough, but what makes you buy a book or game is the experience you had with it. The entertainment and joy, if you will. When you pass your string onto the next person, you don't lose the value, utility if you wish, that you gained from the book/game unless someone hits you on the head and you forget about it. Therefore you don't just transfer the value (this is the only way to compare ideas to physical goods, more in a second), but you quite literally duplicate it. Now there is someone else out there who receives value from the same string. The creator's product is that utility you gain from the game which you jsut doubled. He sees no reward for the duplication of utility.
This is actually very similar to physical goods. If you take a car as an example. Its value is the ability to get you around, and to have fun driving if you are into it. Once you sell it, you have lost the value of the car. It's gone, and you no longer have it. You would have to make a copy of the car, then sell it (counterfeit), for you to be able to retain its value, and have someone else also have its value.
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| Ail said: I have to disagree with blaming consoles for the fact that most PC games don't use cutting edge graphics. Fact is that despite what the author is trying to say, not every PC gamer has a cutting edge machine.
Lets not kid ourselves, the most successfull PC developer is Blizzard, last I checked they didn't release their games on consoles so that's not what is holding them back and despite that their games don't go full out using every last bit of power on your machine. The reason is simple, they know that to have broad appeal you can't target the high end PC only... |
computer games come out with low to insane levels of graphics. hell witcher 2 right now on ultimate low and low resolution looks like a ps1 game, meanwhile i'm not sure if anyoen has a computer that can run it on its maximum settings and resolution.
and guess waht, that game cost a fraction to make as what most hd console games cost. so do they have to solely target the uber high end pc's? no, that is the beauty of pc games, you can set your own graphics so that you can run it optimally.
edit: and i love how so many of you say PC gamers are complaining. Well duh, but its not a selfish whine. Most of our whinning is when you change things for the worse. We aren't asking for the impossible. The most common is one he already mentioned. MENU control. I mean wtf, we have a perfectly good mouse and plenty of keys, why restrict us to using arrow keys and pushing S or enter, or whatever we set it up to be. Or hell even worse, NOT letting us set up buttons to what we want. We dont' care if a game is on PC, 360, PS3, Wii, Ds or you name it. We just don't want you shitting on us. if you want to keep graphics back so that you can easily port to all 3 systems or wahtever that is fine, but don't gimp our controls or menu.
sethnintendo said:
I had a computer during the NES/SNES era. They were called 286/386/486. They mainly used DOS operating system to play games on and there were such classic like Command & Conquer, Magic Carpet, Sim City, Sim Theme Park, Warcraft, etc... Just because you or your friends didn't have a computer during that era didn't mean others weren't gaming on the PC. DOS gaming was decently popular back in the day and not some barely used system. My most found memories of PC gaming would be playing against my friends on a 14.4 or 28k modem with games such as Duke Nukem 3D and Red Alert. |
Wow, just did some research, apparently there were more than 10 million computers in the U.S when the NES was out, never knew that.
Anyway...Scratch that, barely anybody had a PC during the NES / SNES era. I didn't have a computer until 2002, I don't know anybody that has a PC before 1990, but then again, I do live in the UK where computers probably weren't as popular outside of offices.
Anyway, I am sick to death of PC fanboys thinking that the PC is the reason gaming exists now, that isn't true.

vlad321 said:
I didn't make this clear enough, but what makes you buy a book or game is the experience you had with it. The entertainment and joy, if you will. When you pass your string onto the next person, you don't lose the value, utility if you wish, that you gained from the book/game unless someone hits you on the head and you forget about it. Therefore you don't just transfer the value (this is the only way to compare ideas to physical goods, more in a second), but you quite literally duplicate it. Now there is someone else out there who receives value from the same string. The creator's product is that utility you gain from the game which you jsut doubled. He sees no reward for the duplication of utility. This is actually very similar to physical goods. If you take a car as an example. Its value is the ability to get you around, and to have fun driving if you are into it. Once you sell it, you have lost the value of the car. It's gone, and you no longer have it. You would have to make a copy of the car, then sell it (counterfeit), for you to be able to retain its value, and have someone else also have its value. |
Well, I at least understand that position, but I still totally disagree. You cannot reread a book you've sold. You cannot replay a game you've sold. Admittedly you don't read a book as often as you drive a car, but that is still different from 500 people playing the same pirated game at once.
It's not in any way duplicated.
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My advice to fanboys: Brag about stuff that's true, not about stuff that's false. Predict stuff that's likely, not stuff that's unlikely. You will be happier, and we will be happier.
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| brendude13 said: Wow, just did some research, apparently there were more than 10 million computers in the U.S when the NES was out, never knew that. Anyway...Scratch that, barely anybody had a PC during the NES / SNES era. I didn't have a computer until 2002, I don't know anybody that has a PC before 1990, but then again, I do live in the UK where computers probably weren't as popular outside of offices. Anyway, I am sick to death of PC fanboys thinking that the PC is the reason gaming exists now, that isn't true. |
I think you mean "PC fanboys thinking the PC is where all advancements in gaming happen" or something like that, right?
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