Vizion said: Wouldn't it be nice to see high quality games like Bioshock, Grand Theft Auto 4 and Call of Duty 4 on the Wii? |
yeah, but since the graphics,ai,and controls would have to be altered.....maybe they wouldnt be as high quality?
Vizion said: Wouldn't it be nice to see high quality games like Bioshock, Grand Theft Auto 4 and Call of Duty 4 on the Wii? |
yeah, but since the graphics,ai,and controls would have to be altered.....maybe they wouldnt be as high quality?
no they don't.....the reason is very simple:
most 3rd party games suck, so nintendo games beat them all, so they don't get money!!
the major reason is that 3rd party developers don't know yet how to get use of wii-remote in their games, and that's why they suck.....
i'm pretty sure this will change positively when wii sales rise high (even higher than now)
krik said:
Says who? If we get the last 2 big third party games AC and Cod4 we see that AC sold: 360 = 1,940K and the PS3 = 1,130K and CoD4 sold: 360 = 2,251K and the PS3 = 1,010K Now, if we look at the last big first party titles (Mass Effect and Uncharted), we get: ME = 810K Uncharted = 409K Since 360 has about 2x the user base of the PS3 this numbers show about the same attach rate. So I'm not sure where you getting your numbers from, but it surely can't be from VGC.
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the wii's 3rd party support is already gr8 for a console's first year! the wii has 4 million selling 3rd party games in year 1. this number will only increase. the ps3 only has 2 million selling 3rd party games in year one (though this number will improve also.) i also had doubts about the wii cause i thought it would be like the game system that everyone called the "fisher price toy" (the gamecube) the wii is also one of the only game systems that i've seen with high software and hardware numbers at the same time!! 3rd party's will have a fun gen with the wii!! (look at all the hot new wii titles announced for 08 and 09!!)
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Wii: 135 mil
Ps3: 85 mil
360: 60 mil
Wii will get an ever increasing amount of high quality third party titles, it just takes time is all.
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krik said:
Says who? If we get the last 2 big third party games AC and Cod4 we see that AC sold: 360 = 1,940K and the PS3 = 1,130K and CoD4 sold: 360 = 2,251K and the PS3 = 1,010K Now, if we look at the last big first party titles (Mass Effect and Uncharted), we get: ME = 810K Uncharted = 409K Since 360 has about 2x the user base of the PS3 this numbers show about the same attach rate. So I'm not sure where you getting your numbers from, but it surely can't be from VGC.
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Let's look at the top 5 third party publishers performance on the PS3:
EA
Name | Yearly | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 559,631 | |||||
| 265,533 | |||||
| 264,786 | |||||
| 256,859 | |||||
| 214,642 | |||||
| 190,703 | |||||
| 158,737 | |||||
| 123,008 | |||||
| 118,068 | |||||
| 111,376 | |||||
| 107,998 | |||||
| 104,610 | |||||
| 87,000 | |||||
| 83,091 | |||||
| 66,881 | |||||
| 66,635 | |||||
| 55,368 | |||||
| 54,307 | |||||
| 44,250 | |||||
| 36,490 | |||||
| 5,384 |
Activision
Name | Yearly | ||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 581,448 | ||||||
| 327,542 | ||||||
| 212,705 | ||||||
| 187,641 | ||||||
| 105,268 | ||||||
| 100,118 | ||||||
| 68,138 | ||||||
| 66,729 | ||||||
| 17,500 | ||||||
| 15,596 |
Ubisoft
Name | Yearly | ||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 490,092 | ||||||
| 224,224 | ||||||
| 130,178 | ||||||
| 104,745 | ||||||
| 101,932 | ||||||
| 96,082 | ||||||
| 34,699 | ||||||
| 26,039 | ||||||
| 9,236 |
Take 2
Name | Yearly | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 321,708 | |||||
| 186,678 | |||||
| 171,475 | |||||
| 162,376 | |||||
| 150,773 | |||||
| 76,781 | |||||
| 72,317 | |||||
| 57,134 | |||||
| 44,490 | |||||
| 43,807 | |||||
| 24,979 | |||||
| 22,020 | |||||
| 13,859 |
THQ
Name | Yearly | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 144,141 | |||||
| 49,664 | |||||
| 47,284 | |||||
| 26,738 | |||||
| 25,805 | |||||
| 13,010 |
Being that publishers have claimed that they need sales of 500,000 units to break even on PS3 development I'm certain that they're really happy they have lost a ton of money on 90% of PS3 games ...
Even though 3rd party developers take the WII seriously, the buyers aren't taking them seriously, unless you create a carnival or party game
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Sure they are! Look at the good games, and look at their sales. I am not sure there are more than 2-3 that differ greatly from what we would expect a game of that quality to do.
That said, looking at Happy's list above me, they gotta be a heckuva lot happier with their Wii sales than their PS3 sales
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Guys the wii has the LARGEST install base, its very dissapointing that 3rd party games are selling below 1M 1m on the wii for a 3rd party game is about 6% attach rate. Now add up all 3rd party games and its less than a 2% attach rate for wii 3rd parties.
HappySqurriel: Just because a developer said they must sell 500k on PS3 does not mean that you can use the same formula on all 3rd party games.