EDIT : everbody relax:

http://www.vg247.com/2011/03/21/rumour-microsoft-designer-outs-new-xbox-hardware-for-2015/

Back to wondering then.  Or assuming Kow's mate knows something.

Original post below...

Probably a false clue but:

http://www.vg247.com/2011/03/21/rumour-microsoft-designer-outs-new-xbox-hardware-for-2015/

2014/2015 sounds right to me, given recent launch of Kinect, 360 probably peaking this year with prospect of a nice tail of sales and the fact games are still delicately balanced for costs vs return outside of a few AAA blockbusters.

I'd be happy with a new round of internet squabbling around 2015, but what say you?  Too long to wait?  Probably false info?  Agree?

I've said for a while that the new Xbox (and the PS4) will be launching a long time from now.

I hope I'm right

2013/14 would be more believable.

A slim model was obvious though with the constant shrinking of the console's hardware. I almost wouldn't doubt they will have a 360SS if the hardware ever gets to 20nm.

No, kowenicki had a source inside MS that revealed they were working on new shells/casing for an updated 360.  He wasn't just stating the obvious. And most people seemed to doubt the 360 slim was even possible for various reasons.

OT:  I still say 2012/2013. That's already an extra 2-3 years over the normal generation length.  Expect to see next gen reveals starting early 2012!

I wasn't one of those people. And I remember back in the day when the SNES got a redesign (actually im fairly sure the NES got one too) later in its life due to revisions in internal hardware. All consoles, but Xbox 1, had a console size reduction of some form. 

I'd be glad not to see the next generation start until that point, making this one as long as possible is definitely for the better I think.

I just really, really hope that the hardware manufacturers will focus on interface rather than power, and create biometric input, motion controls and what have you that can all be used together in a cohesive package.

I go with you !

for a couple years now i expected both the xbox and ps3 to launch Christmas 2013, but know it seems it may be 2014 (still for both, i dont think sony wants to be stupid again and launch later).

2015 seems to far away

Congrats. And I know what you said. But really, it doesn't matter if you got told the information or got an official document printed in big letters stating that they were working on it. I predicted a 360slim back when I worked for PlayStation Universe a few months before the PS3 launched when we were having staff discussions about the upcoming console war. It was obvious it would happen eventually. What drove me to the prediction? contracts for R&D to shrink the Xenos and Xenon.

No console manufacturer would have an ever shrinking motherboard and keep it in a shell that could fit two of them. Microsoft was having heating issues at first, so they couldn't jump till they had a cool enough dye, but once they did (45nm?) they did. The major benefit for a slim/small console is cost cutting so of course any manufacturer in their right mind would aim for a smaller model eventually. The only reason Microsoft couldnt do the same with the original xbox was because Nvidia refused to R&D a smaller gpu.