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deskpro2k3 on 16 March 2011
CDiablo said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I'm really pissed off. I have 2 friends who downloaded Yakuza 4, and I lost all respect for them. This is all the hackers fault for providing such tools. It is not fair to the devs that created the game, and those who prefer to be legit gamers. I bought my copy fair and square and I want justice!

You are right Geohot and other hackers need to pay for forcing your (ex?)friends to pirate games. If you want justice rat on your (ex?)friends with that stupid anti piracy hotline. If they like the game you may be able to sway them to purchase it new for $40(if they are in the USA).

 

OT: SInce this is a civil case, lets assume Sony proves to the court that geohot profited exclusively due to the hack. I still am not clear how this would effect the case......of course I dont know a thing about the law.

OK, take a closer read at what I posted. No one forced anyone into pirating the game. The fact of the matter is this, if the hack was not published, no pirating would have taken place.



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Galaki on 16 March 2011
deskpro2k3 said:
CDiablo said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I'm really pissed off. I have 2 friends who downloaded Yakuza 4, and I lost all respect for them. This is all the hackers fault for providing such tools. It is not fair to the devs that created the game, and those who prefer to be legit gamers. I bought my copy fair and square and I want justice!

You are right Geohot and other hackers need to pay for forcing your (ex?)friends to pirate games. If you want justice rat on your (ex?)friends with that stupid anti piracy hotline. If they like the game you may be able to sway them to purchase it new for $40(if they are in the USA).

 

OT: SInce this is a civil case, lets assume Sony proves to the court that geohot profited exclusively due to the hack. I still am not clear how this would effect the case......of course I dont know a thing about the law.

OK, take a closer read at what I posted. No one forced anyone into pirating the game. The fact of the matter is this, if the hack was not published, no pirating would have taken place.


Yeah, if they didn't manufacture the guns, my friends wouldn't have shot people. I blame the guns manufacturers.



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deskpro2k3 on 16 March 2011
Galaki said:
deskpro2k3 said:
CDiablo said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I'm really pissed off. I have 2 friends who downloaded Yakuza 4, and I lost all respect for them. This is all the hackers fault for providing such tools. It is not fair to the devs that created the game, and those who prefer to be legit gamers. I bought my copy fair and square and I want justice!

You are right Geohot and other hackers need to pay for forcing your (ex?)friends to pirate games. If you want justice rat on your (ex?)friends with that stupid anti piracy hotline. If they like the game you may be able to sway them to purchase it new for $40(if they are in the USA).

 

OT: SInce this is a civil case, lets assume Sony proves to the court that geohot profited exclusively due to the hack. I still am not clear how this would effect the case......of course I dont know a thing about the law.

OK, take a closer read at what I posted. No one forced anyone into pirating the game. The fact of the matter is this, if the hack was not published, no pirating would have taken place.


Yeah, if they didn't manufacture the guns, my friends wouldn't have shot people. I blame the guns manufacturers.


your sarcasm is so obvious it is disgusting.

But, if you wish to get technical on this matter so be it. anyone who thinks logically can weigh in the differences of the crime. thank goodness you're not a judge or a lawer..

edit: hackers/pirater, i blame them all



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Galaki on 17 March 2011
deskpro2k3 said:
Galaki said:
deskpro2k3 said:
CDiablo said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I'm really pissed off. I have 2 friends who downloaded Yakuza 4, and I lost all respect for them. This is all the hackers fault for providing such tools. It is not fair to the devs that created the game, and those who prefer to be legit gamers. I bought my copy fair and square and I want justice!

You are right Geohot and other hackers need to pay for forcing your (ex?)friends to pirate games. If you want justice rat on your (ex?)friends with that stupid anti piracy hotline. If they like the game you may be able to sway them to purchase it new for $40(if they are in the USA).

 

OT: SInce this is a civil case, lets assume Sony proves to the court that geohot profited exclusively due to the hack. I still am not clear how this would effect the case......of course I dont know a thing about the law.

OK, take a closer read at what I posted. No one forced anyone into pirating the game. The fact of the matter is this, if the hack was not published, no pirating would have taken place.


Yeah, if they didn't manufacture the guns, my friends wouldn't have shot people. I blame the guns manufacturers.


your sarcasm is so obvious it is disgusting.

But, if you wish to get technical on this matter so be it. anyone who thinks logically can weigh in the differences of the crime. thank goodness you're not a judge or a lawer..

edit: hackers/pirater, i blame them all

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ssj12 on 17 March 2011
thranx said:

Go consumer rights. Glad to see in CA corporations still rule. Hopefully after our economic woes that will change. We'll see. Can't wait for the end of this case and I hope consumers come out on top.


Our economic woes will not dispair till the defense and black budget are reduced, which wont happen.



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DonFerrari on 17 March 2011
Galaki said:
deskpro2k3 said:
Galaki said:
deskpro2k3 said:
CDiablo said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I'm really pissed off. I have 2 friends who downloaded Yakuza 4, and I lost all respect for them. This is all the hackers fault for providing such tools. It is not fair to the devs that created the game, and those who prefer to be legit gamers. I bought my copy fair and square and I want justice!

You are right Geohot and other hackers need to pay for forcing your (ex?)friends to pirate games. If you want justice rat on your (ex?)friends with that stupid anti piracy hotline. If they like the game you may be able to sway them to purchase it new for $40(if they are in the USA).

 

OT: SInce this is a civil case, lets assume Sony proves to the court that geohot profited exclusively due to the hack. I still am not clear how this would effect the case......of course I dont know a thing about the law.

OK, take a closer read at what I posted. No one forced anyone into pirating the game. The fact of the matter is this, if the hack was not published, no pirating would have taken place.


Yeah, if they didn't manufacture the guns, my friends wouldn't have shot people. I blame the guns manufacturers.


your sarcasm is so obvious it is disgusting.

But, if you wish to get technical on this matter so be it. anyone who thinks logically can weigh in the differences of the crime. thank goodness you're not a judge or a lawer..

edit: hackers/pirater, i blame them all

Do as i say. Not as I do.

If you want we can jail hackers/pirates with the same sentences of killers what do you think??? Would it work for you?

And altough i don't like guns, and think USA is almost a joke on the rigth to have one, it's a legal bussiness, so don't compare their liability with a illegal or not regulated one.



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thranx on 17 March 2011
ssj12 said:
thranx said:

Go consumer rights. Glad to see in CA corporations still rule. Hopefully after our economic woes that will change. We'll see. Can't wait for the end of this case and I hope consumers come out on top.


Our economic woes will not dispair till the defense and black budget are reduced, which wont happen.

I was talking CA specificaly, not the nation.



thranx on 17 March 2011
DonFerrari said:
Galaki said:
deskpro2k3 said:
Galaki said:
deskpro2k3 said:
CDiablo said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I'm really pissed off. I have 2 friends who downloaded Yakuza 4, and I lost all respect for them. This is all the hackers fault for providing such tools. It is not fair to the devs that created the game, and those who prefer to be legit gamers. I bought my copy fair and square and I want justice!

You are right Geohot and other hackers need to pay for forcing your (ex?)friends to pirate games. If you want justice rat on your (ex?)friends with that stupid anti piracy hotline. If they like the game you may be able to sway them to purchase it new for $40(if they are in the USA).

 

OT: SInce this is a civil case, lets assume Sony proves to the court that geohot profited exclusively due to the hack. I still am not clear how this would effect the case......of course I dont know a thing about the law.

OK, take a closer read at what I posted. No one forced anyone into pirating the game. The fact of the matter is this, if the hack was not published, no pirating would have taken place.


Yeah, if they didn't manufacture the guns, my friends wouldn't have shot people. I blame the guns manufacturers.


your sarcasm is so obvious it is disgusting.

But, if you wish to get technical on this matter so be it. anyone who thinks logically can weigh in the differences of the crime. thank goodness you're not a judge or a lawer..

edit: hackers/pirater, i blame them all

Do as i say. Not as I do.

If you want we can jail hackers/pirates with the same sentences of killers what do you think??? Would it work for you?

And altough i don't like guns, and think USA is almost a joke on the rigth to have one, it's a legal bussiness, so don't compare their liability with a illegal or not regulated one.

Actually what you guys are talking about would be jailing gun manufactures-ie the tool provider. As geohot has still not pirated games nor hacked the PSN like so many of you seem to believe. I guess we should also jail car  makers too. I mean they cause so many accidents. Tobacco farmers also. People who make knives should be jailed. See where I am going? perhaps we should not blame the tools or tool makers, but those who use tools for harm. Like the people who actually pirate or hack the psn none of which geohot is accused of. hmmmm.

 

Edit:

Is sony sueing anybody who has actually pirated sony games/ps3 games or anyone who has hacked onto the psn? Just asking, if so please provide a link.



Galaki on 17 March 2011
thranx said:

Is sony sueing anybody who has actually pirated sony games/ps3 games or anyone who has hacked onto the psn? Just asking, if so please provide a link.


Maybe they'll get your bank balance next so they know who has the money to cough up for settlement :)

P.S. Please, don't sue me. I don't own anything with a Sony stamp on it. But I'll cough up a $100 to avoid going to court. Just sent the bill directly to me, Sony.



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thranx on 17 March 2011
Galaki said:
thranx said:

Is sony sueing anybody who has actually pirated sony games/ps3 games or anyone who has hacked onto the psn? Just asking, if so please provide a link.


Maybe they'll get your bank balance next so they know who has the money to cough up for settlement :)

P.S. Please, don't sue me. I don't own anything with a Sony stamp on it. But I'll cough up a $100 to avoid going to court. Just sent the bill directly to me, Sony.


lol. I do own a psp, but have never hacked it or anything. i've personaly never hacked anything, and haven't pirated a game since I got a job (not to mention i have basically rebought any game I pirated, I dont like a guilty consious (sp?)). But I am all for personal freedoms and ownership rights and consumer rights.