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What Religion Do You Follow?

Islam 15 7.89%
 
Christianity 50 26.32%
 
Hinduism 2 1.05%
 
Sikhism 1 0.53%
 
Buddhism 2 1.05%
 
I don't follow a religion 120 63.16%
 
Total:190
Dr.Grass on 18 March 2011
FaRmLaNd said:
ManusJustus said:
FaRmLaNd said:

I think it may be a bit over the top to say that 90% scientists in certain scientific fields are atheists.

I'm just quoting studies I've come across.  Its not that suprising that fields like biology and physics would produce such high numbers of people with disbelief in God, since everything you know runs contrary to what the world's view of religion is.

Oh, I certainly agree. The same applies to what I've read about philosophers aswell. Its not just the sciences. I wonder what the rate would be in historians? I could see how a historian could easily become non-religious aswell considering the lack of reputable sources for most religions and outright contradictions with what secular sources say in many cases.


I think you are gravely mistaken.

Apart from what you might find if you actually look, here is the greatest philosopher of the last Millenium imo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiva_Goswami



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sapphi_snake on 18 March 2011
Dr.Grass said:
FaRmLaNd said:
ManusJustus said:
FaRmLaNd said:

I think it may be a bit over the top to say that 90% scientists in certain scientific fields are atheists.

I'm just quoting studies I've come across.  Its not that suprising that fields like biology and physics would produce such high numbers of people with disbelief in God, since everything you know runs contrary to what the world's view of religion is.

Oh, I certainly agree. The same applies to what I've read about philosophers aswell. Its not just the sciences. I wonder what the rate would be in historians? I could see how a historian could easily become non-religious aswell considering the lack of reputable sources for most religions and outright contradictions with what secular sources say in many cases.


I think you are gravely mistaken.

Apart from what you might find if you actually look, here is the greatest philosopher of the last Millenium imo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiva_Goswami

That's one of the scariest pictures I've ever seen.



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Dr.Grass on 18 March 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Dr.Grass said:
sapphi_snake said:
Dr.Grass said:
sapphi_snake said:
Dr.Grass said:
Intendo21 said:

Religion is just a corrupt system that impedes progress. Watch Religulous. I like Budhism though even though it is more of a philosophy.


Yes and happiness is just a chemical reaction in the brain.

True, but with which one would you rather live without?


THAT WAS SARCASM.

To believe that would equate to not believing that there is any existence after death since consciousness is just due to the complex interactions of the brain.

But isn't that true?


Do you think scientists know anything about consciousness at all? 

There is almost nothing, and a little self-reflection on your part will clearly reveal why.

Why can't you just ever say out loud what you think?


Because self-realization is something a living entity can only undergo alone, and putting it in words on a vg blog will make it seem even more rediculous to those that have never investigated it than what they thought before.



Dr.Grass on 18 March 2011
sapphi_snake said:
Dr.Grass said:
FaRmLaNd said:
ManusJustus said:
FaRmLaNd said:

I think it may be a bit over the top to say that 90% scientists in certain scientific fields are atheists.

I'm just quoting studies I've come across.  Its not that suprising that fields like biology and physics would produce such high numbers of people with disbelief in God, since everything you know runs contrary to what the world's view of religion is.

Oh, I certainly agree. The same applies to what I've read about philosophers aswell. Its not just the sciences. I wonder what the rate would be in historians? I could see how a historian could easily become non-religious aswell considering the lack of reputable sources for most religions and outright contradictions with what secular sources say in many cases.


I think you are gravely mistaken.

Apart from what you might find if you actually look, here is the greatest philosopher of the last Millenium imo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiva_Goswami

That's one of the scariest pictures I've ever seen.

 

I studied some of his Sanskrit, and I cannot even begin to explain the genius of the Sat-Sandharbas. Anyways, try to get your attention.



sapphi_snake on 18 March 2011
Dr.Grass said:


Because self-realization is something a living entity can only undergo alone, and putting it in words on a vg blog will make it seem even more rediculous to those that have never investigated it than what they thought before.

Meh, bet you're just full of it.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

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Scoobes on 18 March 2011
highwaystar101 said:
Scoobes said:

Pretty much an atheist here and I'm opposed to organised religion. As far as I'm concerned, spirituality/spiritual belief is and should be personal and completely decided by the individual. Having an organised religion is opposed to that. You have to believe in the strict confines of your religion which is usually dictated by the family and culture you're born into.

I also don't like the idea of having large organised groups (that are essentially open to corruption) leading or "advising" people with something as powerful as religious ideology and beliefs.

For some reason I thought you were Hindu. I don't know why.

I was born and raised Hindu, and still sometimes refer to myself as an Atheist-Hindu as a joke. My mum basically said that once you're born Hindu, you're always Hindu, even if I don't believe!




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sapphi_snake on 18 March 2011
Scoobes said:
highwaystar101 said:
Scoobes said:

Pretty much an atheist here and I'm opposed to organised religion. As far as I'm concerned, spirituality/spiritual belief is and should be personal and completely decided by the individual. Having an organised religion is opposed to that. You have to believe in the strict confines of your religion which is usually dictated by the family and culture you're born into.

I also don't like the idea of having large organised groups (that are essentially open to corruption) leading or "advising" people with something as powerful as religious ideology and beliefs.

For some reason I thought you were Hindu. I don't know why.

I was born and raised Hindu, and still sometimes refer to myself as an Atheist-Hindu as a joke. My mum basically said that once you're born Hindu, you're always Hindu, even if I don't believe!

That makes so much sense!



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

FaRmLaNd on 18 March 2011
Dr.Grass said:
FaRmLaNd said:
ManusJustus said:
FaRmLaNd said:

I think it may be a bit over the top to say that 90% scientists in certain scientific fields are atheists.

I'm just quoting studies I've come across.  Its not that suprising that fields like biology and physics would produce such high numbers of people with disbelief in God, since everything you know runs contrary to what the world's view of religion is.

Oh, I certainly agree. The same applies to what I've read about philosophers aswell. Its not just the sciences. I wonder what the rate would be in historians? I could see how a historian could easily become non-religious aswell considering the lack of reputable sources for most religions and outright contradictions with what secular sources say in many cases.


I think you are gravely mistaken.

Apart from what you might find if you actually look, here is the greatest philosopher of the last Millenium imo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiva_Goswami


Sorry, but one philosopher is irrelivant to what I was saying. There were plenty of great philosophers that were atheists or most likely were aswell, however thats not the point I was making. The point I was making is that I have read that a large number of philosophers are atheists or lean away from theism, just like in the sciences. Certainly more-so then in the general population.

http://philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl?affil=All respondents&areas0=0&areas_max=1&grain=coarse

Of note is this.

God: theism or atheism?

Accept or lean toward: atheism 2136 / 3226 (66.2%)
Accept or lean toward: theism 599 / 3226 (18.5%)
Other 491 / 3226 (15.2%)

"The PhilPapers Survey was a survey of professional philosophers and others on their philosophical views, carried out in November 2009. The Survey was taken by 3226 respondents, including 1803 philosophy faculty members and/or PhDs and 829 philosophy graduate students.

The PhilPapers Metasurvey was a concurrent survey of professional philosophers and others concerning their predictions of the results of the Survey. The Metasurvey was taken by 727 respondents including 438 professional philosophers and PhDs and 210 philosophy graduate students."



Kasz216 on 18 March 2011
ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:

A) You do realize that believing in god =/= atheism.   So you were wrong.

B)  The problem you have listed in that study is it's "Personal belief"  "Personal Disbelief" or Agnostic. 

Which as more recent polls have found skews towards disbelief because...

"A primary complaint of scientists who answered the earlier polls was that the concept of God was limited to a "personal God." Leuba considered an impersonal God as equivalent to pure naturalism and classified advocates of deism as nonbelievers. We designed the current study to distinguish theism from deism—that is to day a "personal God" (theism) versus an "impersonal God" who created the universe, all forces and matter, but does not intervene in daily events (deism). An evolutionist can be considered religious, in our poll, if he calls himself a deist. ..."

In otherwords, Deists were classfied as atheits.

Which was actually largely my point.   I mean, that should of been obvious based on the fact that more people believed in Immortality then god.  I mean that didn't stand out and make you go... "huh?"  You've got to have a more scientific thought process when reading this stuff.  Note the 78% as Naturalists (about 80%) and the rest leaving at least some room for theism and/or deism.

http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2007/06/evolutionary-biologists-flunk-religion.html

(Note that the URL is saying that scientists are flunking religion, not that scientists have flunked on the case of religion.)

It's funny that the study you quoted ended up being the exact study that was cited by the articles I found as one that was primarily flawed and needed reworking.

When asked if they believed in immortality, the percentages only went up by one point.

I reference a scientific study and you reference the opinion of a blogger.

And what are you really arguing anyway?  "Only 85 percent of evolutionary biologists are athiest, not 94 percent like you said, you are so silly and wrong."  You remind me of people who can't stand to be wrong.  You'd think these people would have enough pride to give up, or enough sense to stop talking.

So you didn't actually bother to red the article eh?  It was quoting a followup scientitifc study being quoted.

Where, 79% of evolutionary biologists were atheists. (Like I said).

With everyone else following between agnostic, religion and deism.


Here is the actual article though, with an even more fun quote proving my point.

ames H. Leuba, a sociologist at Bryn Mawr College, conducted the first in 1914. He polled 400 scientists starred as "greater" in the 1910 American Men of Science on the existence of a "personal God" and immortality, or life after death. Leuba defined a personal God as a "God to whom one may pray in the expectation of receiving an answer."

Hell, not even all Christians believe that!

http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/evolution-religion-and-free-will/1


Another fun quote....

"73 percent said organisms have only material properties, whereas 23 percent said organisms have both material and spiritual properties." 

So, I did make a mistake, in taking the 79% who classified themselves as pure naturalists, and assuming they were atheists.  Though, this goes more against your point then towards it, no?

 (By the way, the article is a good read.)



FaRmLaNd on 18 March 2011

Its really just splitting hairs at this point. All the stats show non-religion being significantly higher in scientists then in the general population and the study I linked to about philosophy shows the same. I think its pretty obvious that that would be the case with most academic disciplines (not including theology!). Whether its higher or lower doesn't really matter that much, the point remains the same.