What Religion Do You Follow?

[Kasz216]

ManusJustus said:

Kasz216 said:

A) You do realize that believing in god =/= atheism.   So you were wrong.

B)  The problem you have listed in that study is it's "Personal belief"  "Personal Disbelief" or Agnostic. 

Which as more recent polls have found skews towards disbelief because...

"A primary complaint of scientists who answered the earlier polls was that the concept of God was limited to a "personal God." Leuba considered an impersonal God as equivalent to pure naturalism and classified advocates of deism as nonbelievers. We designed the current study to distinguish theism from deism—that is to day a "personal God" (theism) versus an "impersonal God" who created the universe, all forces and matter, but does not intervene in daily events (deism). An evolutionist can be considered religious, in our poll, if he calls himself a deist. ..."

In otherwords, Deists were classfied as atheits.

Which was actually largely my point.   I mean, that should of been obvious based on the fact that more people believed in Immortality then god.  I mean that didn't stand out and make you go... "huh?"  You've got to have a more scientific thought process when reading this stuff.  Note the 78% as Naturalists (about 80%) and the rest leaving at least some room for theism and/or deism.

http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2007/06/evolutionary-biologists-flunk-religion.html

(Note that the URL is saying that scientists are flunking religion, not that scientists have flunked on the case of religion.)

It's funny that the study you quoted ended up being the exact study that was cited by the articles I found as one that was primarily flawed and needed reworking.

When asked if they believed in immortality, the percentages only went up by one point.

I reference a scientific study and you reference the opinion of a blogger.

And what are you really arguing anyway?  "Only 85 percent of evolutionary biologists are athiest, not 94 percent like you said, you are so silly and wrong."  You remind me of people who can't stand to be wrong.  You'd think these people would have enough pride to give up, or enough sense to stop talking.

So you didn't actually bother to red the article eh?  It was quoting a followup scientitifc study being quoted.

Where, 79% of evolutionary biologists were atheists. (Like I said).

With everyone else following between agnostic, religion and deism.

Here is the actual article though, with an even more fun quote proving my point.

ames H. Leuba, a sociologist at Bryn Mawr College, conducted the first in 1914. He polled 400 scientists starred as "greater" in the 1910 American Men of Science on the existence of a "personal God" and immortality, or life after death. Leuba defined a personal God as a "God to whom one may pray in the expectation of receiving an answer."

Hell, not even all Christians believe that!

http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/evolution-religion-and-free-will/1

Another fun quote....

"73 percent said organisms have only material properties, whereas 23 percent said organisms have both material and spiritual properties." 

So, I did make a mistake, in taking the 79% who classified themselves as pure naturalists, and assuming they were atheists.  Though, this goes more against your point then towards it, no?

 (By the way, the article is a good read.)