Votals:
With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

[3,L-5] darthdevidem01: Gnizmo, TruckOSaurus, theprof00
[1,L-7] NotStan: hatmoza

Vetteman gets busy with family stuff I believe. He also browses from his phone which makes posting damn near impossible as I can attest. My couple of 2 sentence posts took 5 minutes or more to actually show up. This has come up with him before is why I am saying. Besides he actually did participate in this thread for a while which is better than you can say for darth up to this point.

We're at a very tough situation here without vetteman and darth, if we have two mafia factions then I believe it's going to be a lot tougher to figure things out without them. Maybe one of them will slip up and we can get some more information. Notstan seems like a "noob", though he may be hiding something under that guise.

To all: Do you think Notstan is smarter than we know, and playing off the "noob" card to disguise himself?

Seriously? I've had FoS on darth on day one :/, he was lurking then and still is. It's really up to you to make up your mind.

"If more experienced players believe that Vigilante is highly unlikely"

That has the grain of truth in it, I haven't played Mafia since the time I have frequented TW forums, which was well over two years ago, and the game that I have played was much more simplified, just mafia, doctor, cop and town. What is played now is much more complicated than what I played for, so I might have as well started afresh. I've never played a game with vigilantes but read up on the roles and thought it was a likely scenario.

It's not that 2 mafia factions is unlikely, but that there isn't really solid evidence to prove it (linkz said he colored them the same on purpose, and gniz' theory was based on there being role-alignment matchups.

It's really starting to look like people completely buy it. I have a problem whenever people completely buy something.

on another note, while I am still willing to lync darth, I'm also willing to lynch either ABC or notstan. On that merit, notstan has the most glaring infractions that I've seen thus far, so, I'll be changing my vote from darth.

Unvote darth
vote notstan

ABC I'm looking at mainly because earlier he made a couple posts about kil'jaeden, saying he created the lich king. When I told him that I had already claimed it, he was like, "oh well, I guess it's randomized then". It's like, "And how would you know that mister?! You shouldn't know my alignment!"

However, I've decided to vote notstan over ABC because (despite how ridiculous it is) I cannot believe that ABC would draw mafia twice in a row. (although he's a possible SK)

Votals:
With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

[2,L-6] darthdevidem01: Gnizmo, TruckOSaurus, (theprof00)
[2,L-6] NotStan: hatmoza, theprof00

ask trucks how he feels on people's chances of drawing mafia multiple times in a row ^^

yeah i know. It's a real problem. I have to figure out a way to circumvent that kind of thinking because it's always interfering with my reasoning.

Sorry about not participating more, was busy.  But i have been keeping up with the thread.

Im still getting a bed feeling from hatmoza,  i think its another scheme of his, unfortunately its just a feeling and the only evidence I would have is from past games.

I do agree with theprof00 on both ABC and NotStan,  i think they are both lynch worthy for a number of reasons.

Vote: NotStan

I don't really think I've rushed it, but if me or hat hadn't said anything, then I don't think we would have anything to discuss at all. I have no real desire to bs around. Just trying to play the game.