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Halo_Reach said:
Michael-5 said:
MightyGrogg said:
CGI-Quality said:
MightyGrogg said:

You are forgetting one thing. When GT4 was out it has wat more PS2 sold to consumers then what the PS3 has now. GT5's legs won't be the same as GT4. GT4 was also a lot more popular in the U.S. then GT5 is now. So it's legs will rely mostly on EMEA sales. Japan GT5 sales are dismal right now.

Actually, GT5 is performing on par with GT4 in the Americas (it only has to reach 2.8mill there to catch GT4 and it's already at 1.61mill (at a similar rate to GT4). It's only real blunder is Japan (which EMEAA will make up for and then some).

How many PS2 were in sold at this time period? How many PS3 are sold in same time period. Was there a recession and economical problems at that time period when GT4 was out? How many more do they need to sell in EMEA & JAPA?GT5 is at 6 million. It has to sell another 4.5 million copies to catch GT4. Unless Sony does a couple more bundles during the holidays, I do see them reaching that goal. They should hit 8 million maybe, but by June total sales will be below 10K a week worldwide.

I've done the math on this. For GT5 to sell just 10 million units it needs to sell 79% as well as GT4 for the reamining weeks. Recently the attach rate has dropped slightly below 80%, but it's still too early to tell where it's going to stablize. I think GT5 sales will likely stabilize around 60% of GT4's remaining weekly sales, so to me an 8.5-9.4 million ranges seems likely. 8 million is a bit low, Forza 3 sold 1.8 million units since last year at this point, but 1 million were due from bundling. Still GT5 should be able to do at least double Forza 3's weekly sales, so 8 million should be a bare minimum, if and only if all things went sour for PD.

Actually, GT5 is performing on par with GT4 in the Americas (it only has to reach 2.8mill there to catch GT4 and it's already at 1.61mill (at a similar rate to GT4). It's only real blunder is Japan (which EMEAA will make up for and then some). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

you are seeming to ignore this HUGE tidbit of info, gt4 launched in march...gt5 launched on black friday week!!!!! that is crazy that you wanna give gt5 the same credit- if it launched in march like gt4 it wouldnt even of sold half

I 100% agree, with you. However GT5 is stablizing at similar sales levels to GT4 in Americas, but not in EMEAA and definatly not in Japan.

If you compare the attach rate between GT4 and GT5, for a few weeks in December GT5 doubled GT4's sales, but after week 5 (week ending December 25th), the attact rate has dropped from 150%, to 100%, to 90%, to 80 %, to 70%, and then to 67%.

BTW, even though GT5 opened on Black Friday to a worldwide release, GT4 still outsold the game week 1.



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CGI-Quality said:
Halo_Reach said:

Actually, GT5 is performing on par with GT4 in the Americas (it only has to reach 2.8mill there to catch GT4 and it's already at 1.61mill (at a similar rate to GT4). It's only real blunder is Japan (which EMEAA will make up for and then some). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

you are seeming to ignore this HUGE tidbit of info, gt4 launched in march...gt5 launched on black friday week!!!!! that is crazy that you wanna give gt5 the same credit- if it launched in march like gt4 it wouldnt even of sold half

Lol....why'd you quote a different poster with my response? O.o

Regardless, you're speaking out of sheer speculation (and because GT5 didn't launch outside of a holiday period, it will always be speculation).

Bottom line,  GT5 is performing like GT4 in the States. I can only imagine that the holiday helped to front-load the sales, but not add any incredible, extra amount (and the numbers don't reflect such an assumption).

Actually, most established franchises do sell better initially, when given a holiday launch window. Games get more headstrong sales. Give 1 example of where this wasn't true, I dare you.

And for now GT5 is performing as well as GT4 in the states, but in EMEAA the sales ratio is dropping, and in Japan GT5 is dying.



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CGI-Quality said:
Halo_Reach said:

again i quoted your post because it was the one that i wanted to quote, it was the one that was ignoring the facts- and are u kidding me, speculation ! you saying that a game that launches in march is going to sell the same as one that launches at the absolute height of the holiday season....and wait till the first holiday weeks for gt4 and the same week for gt5 and you will see a major difference

I haven't ignored any facts. The situation is simple - you'll never know what GT5 would have done outside of a holiday (making your end speculation), but I can speculate that all GT5 did was rack up sales faster than GT4 because of it's holiday release, but will end up selling just a bit below it or match it in the end.

Considering GT5 sales sharply drop after week 5, and the attach rate of GT5 onto GT4 goes from 250% to 125% in only 2 weeks, I think there is ground for this belief. Also since sales are now sub 70% of GT4's, It's definatly a reasonable one. Numbers don't lie, so just plot a graph on excel and make a parabolic line of best fit... Then come back and say there is no trend forming.



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Michael-5 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Halo_Reach said:

Actually, GT5 is performing on par with GT4 in the Americas (it only has to reach 2.8mill there to catch GT4 and it's already at 1.61mill (at a similar rate to GT4). It's only real blunder is Japan (which EMEAA will make up for and then some). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

you are seeming to ignore this HUGE tidbit of info, gt4 launched in march...gt5 launched on black friday week!!!!! that is crazy that you wanna give gt5 the same credit- if it launched in march like gt4 it wouldnt even of sold half

Lol....why'd you quote a different poster with my response? O.o

Regardless, you're speaking out of sheer speculation (and because GT5 didn't launch outside of a holiday period, it will always be speculation).

Bottom line,  GT5 is performing like GT4 in the States. I can only imagine that the holiday helped to front-load the sales, but not add any incredible, extra amount (and the numbers don't reflect such an assumption).

Actually, most established franchises do sell better initially, when given a holiday launch window. Games get more headstrong sales. Give 1 example of where this wasn't true, I dare you.

And for now GT5 is performing as well as GT4 in the states, but in EMEAA the sales ratio is dropping, and in Japan GT5 is dying.

in japan gt5 died like 10 th week look at it, it will never reach 700k in japan its done



CGI-Quality said:
Halo_Reach said:

in japan gt5 died like 10 th week look at it, it will never reach 700k in japan its done

It should reach 700k in the region total. If it gets a post release bundle (like Prologue had), it will surely cross that.

I agree that GT's on a downslope in Japan though (at least it is for this gen), but for the rest of the world, GT is GT and reaching 10 million seems beyond feasible after 6 million in 3.5 months. That's all I'm getting at. What it did in conjunction to GT4 hasn't really ever been relevant to me - two totally different scenarios.

Well there goes my support...

Your 100% right in that 10 million is definatly feasible for GT5.

I only argue that it's not garenteed, and I beleive, by studying trends, that GT5 won't break it. I don't care if no one else agrees with me, but people should accept it as a possibility that 10 million sales may not be reached.



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pezus said:
MightyGrogg said:

How many PS2 were in sold at this time period? How many PS3 are sold in same time period. Was there a recession and economical problems at that time period when GT4 was out? How many more do they need to sell in EMEA & JAPA?GT5 is at 6 million. It has to sell another 4.5 million copies to catch GT4. Unless Sony does a couple more bundles during the holidays, I do see them reaching that goal. They should hit 8 million maybe, but by June total sales will be below 10K a week worldwide.

Come on, you can't be serious?

Even GT4 had 40-50k weekly sales in June...June of 2006! (It's second June) One week it even hit 89k sales (June 24th, 2006), but why a jump then all of a sudden, I have no clue.



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LOL 2 360 fanatics downplaying GT5 even after selling 6m in 3 months? SHOCK AND AW!



So much jealous here.



CGI-Quality said:
Ping_ii said:

LOL 2 360 fanatics downplaying GT5 even after selling 6m in 3 months? SHOCK AND AW!

That's where you have to know where a battle is worth engaging in. In this case, it's not worth it. The figures have done (and are doing) the talking.

Yet you always come back



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Ping_ii said:

LOL 2 360 fanatics downplaying GT5 even after selling 6m in 3 months? SHOCK AND AW!

I'm not downplaying GT5, I think it's selling well. I'm just defending my belief that it won't sell 10 million units, lifetime. Getting hasstled at every comment I make, even when they are completly neutral. If it outsells GT2 (at 9.37 million I believe), or even if it breaks 9 million, it's done its job as a GT title. There is a difference between downplaying the game, and defending a statement.

Besides, is 9.4 million lifetime that terrible of a prediction? Does 600k really mean the world is going to end? Some people act like it will.



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