jarrod said:
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Right, but that's a handheld. In the console market.
| postofficebuddy said: Oh honestly that notion is just ridiculous. The home console market isn't dead, it's just more divided. Last gen all consoles combined sold about 30 million, 28 million if you take out Dreamcast. This gen will end not to far behind that. |
Uh, what? It's going to be multiple millions behind that?!
Actually, the home console marketing has been declining awhile now, it's just accelerated greatly this gen... I don't see fortunes reversing next gen either...
SFC/PCE/MD: 26,590,000
PS/SS/N64/3DO: 33,750,000
PS2/GC/DC/XB: 29,220,000
Wii/PS3/360: 19,130,000 (so far)
...I think this gen has maybe 5m or so left in it yet, but that's still pretty optimistic. Wii/360 are basically done, and PS3's on a slow decline.
NYANKS said:
Right, but that's a handheld. In the console market. |
The Japanese don't care. They went from PS2 to DS. "Console market" is a western construct.
jarrod said:
The Japanese don't care. They went from PS2 to DS. "Console market" is a western construct. |
until the day you plug in your ds into your home tv for multiplayer games or until the day different members of the same house needs to buy a home console each...no not the same 'market'
some members might have switched to a different market but there are two very different markets for those products
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i think some of you guys are wasting your breath on the whole market leader thing. FYI i agree with the majority
jarrod said:
The Japanese don't care. They went from PS2 to DS. "Console market" is a western construct. |
The 12 million people who bought a Wii in Japan would tend to disagree I think. They didn't buy that because they mistook it for a DS. They want games. It's not their fault they're not getting them. On PS3, games are doing pretty well.
jarrod said:
Actually, the home console marketing has been declining awhile now, it's just accelerated greatly this gen... I don't see fortunes reversing next gen either...
SFC/PCE/MD: 26,590,000 PS/SS/N64/3DO: 33,750,000 PS2/GC/DC/XB: 29,220,000 Wii/PS3/360: 19,130,000 (so far)
...I think this gen has maybe 5m or so left in it yet, but that's still pretty optimistic. Wii/360 are basically done, and PS3's on a slow decline. |
I've asked you about this multiple times now. What makes you so certain that NGP will cut so heavily into PS3 sales? PS2 went on to sell another 6 million after the PSP launch, which was effectively marketed as a portable PS2. And the scenario that you have Wii in basically assumes that DQX doesn't release until it's too late for it to have any effect, despite the fact that you seem to assume that it's coming this year.
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| jarrod said: Market leader of a dead market? Sort of devalues the term "market leader" doesn't it? |
People sure were not saying that in 2007 when the Wii was outselling PS3 6:1.
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By Jarrod belief, The PSP is the market leader right now in japan.
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| psrock said: By Jarrod belief, The PSP is the market leader right now in japan. |
If it's convenient. I'm not sure a Sony console would count as being convenient to him.
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