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Torillian on 09 March 2011
Euphoria14 said:


No idea if this is 100% correct but it says 99 employees.

http://www.corporateinformation.com/Company-Snapshot.aspx?cusip=C392NQE00


ooo cool, couldn't get that thing to tell me about Gust, so now I just have to find those numbers.



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Euphoria14 on 09 March 2011
LivingMetal said:
Euphoria14 said:
LivingMetal said:

Even thought the PSP is doing great in Japan and is a terrific handheld, I see Nintendo always being the King of Handhelds for a VERY long time.



I blame Pokemon.


I'll admit I'm not a Pokemon fan, but more power to its fans.

I love Pokemon. More power to me.



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jarrod on 09 March 2011
Torillian said:
jarrod said:

 

Also looks like D4 won't be getting anywhere near the 200k investors projected.  I wonder how long NIS can last at this rate?

Wonder what the staff numbers are like compared to a company like Gust that's perfectly happy with 80k lifetime sales in Japan. 

Also I don't think it's fair to start talking about the D4 sales like it's a dissapointment because some investors bought stocks based off faulty assumptions.  It is doing better than D3 and I highly doubt NIS had the same expectations as those investors, but I guess the only way to know one way or another if this is what NIS needed to sell would be to get one of those powerpoints like Atlus puts out giving their expected and actual sales numbers. 

NIS was in trouble before their stock rebounded, driven primarily off investor excitement over D4.  Now that the game has done about half what said investors were expecting, I'm just wondering if we'll see their stock plummet back down?

It would be nice to know D4's expectations from NIS themselves, all I know is that it was expected to sell better than D3 (which sold around 100k total, while NIS had projected 120k).  You have to think though, these numbers aren't exactly encouraging, it's only slightly above D3 (itself considered a disappointment), it used entirely redrawn assets, and NIS seemed to be pinning a lot of hopes on the game (especially after the trail of bombs they delivered on PSP last year).  If I were a NIS fan, I'd be worried...



Euphoria14 on 09 March 2011
Torillian said:
Euphoria14 said:
 


No idea if this is 100% correct but it says 99 employees.

http://www.corporateinformation.com/Company-Snapshot.aspx?cusip=C392NQE00


ooo cool, couldn't get that thing to tell me about Gust, so now I just have to find those numbers.


Been trying to find them myself but no luck.

I agree with you though in your argument with Jarrod. Disgaea 4 is selling better than Disgaea 3 and I for one did not understand what so ever him questioning how long they can last because the game isn't at 200k like investors thought.

NIS is going to be fine.



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Euphoria14 on 09 March 2011
jarrod said:
Torillian said:
jarrod said:

 

Also looks like D4 won't be getting anywhere near the 200k investors projected.  I wonder how long NIS can last at this rate?

Wonder what the staff numbers are like compared to a company like Gust that's perfectly happy with 80k lifetime sales in Japan. 

Also I don't think it's fair to start talking about the D4 sales like it's a dissapointment because some investors bought stocks based off faulty assumptions.  It is doing better than D3 and I highly doubt NIS had the same expectations as those investors, but I guess the only way to know one way or another if this is what NIS needed to sell would be to get one of those powerpoints like Atlus puts out giving their expected and actual sales numbers. 

NIS was in trouble before their stock rebounded, driven primarily off investor excitement over D4.  Now that the game has done about half what said investors were expecting, I'm just wondering if we'll see their stock plummet back down?

It would be nice to know D4's expectations from NIS themselves, all I know is that it was expected to sell better than D3 (which sold around 100k total, while NIS had projected 120k).  You have to think though, these numbers aren't exactly encouraging, it's only slightly above D3 (itself considered a disappointment), it used entirely redrawn assets, and NIS seemed to be pinning a lot of hopes on the game (especially after the trail of bombs they delivered on PSP last year).  If I were a NIS fan, I'd be worried...

I really hope you're wrong.

I'm a big NIS fan.



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Bruno Muñoz on 09 March 2011

I think that NIS should have released Disgaea 4 on PSP now that the system looks unstoppable and after the not so encouraging Disgaea 3 sales, Disgaea PSP ports sold 100k units.

On top of it PS3 games always have very crappy legs, an 84% drop is abysmal.

Makai Senki Disgaea Portable: Tsuushin Taisen Hajimemashita --- 16,517 / 107,169

Disgaea 2: Dark Hero Days --- 36,491 / 101,688



jarrod on 09 March 2011
CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:

This is a first for a market leader (again, if memory serves me right)

Since when has Wii been Japan's market leader?

Since it's the highest selling console in Japan for the gen? I'm obviously not talking about handheld devices. :S

Japan's market pretty much is handhelds now.  Unlike previous gens, which supported both high selling home consoles (FC, SFC, PS, PS2) and high selling portable consoles (GB, GBA), this gen's gone almost entirely handheld (DS & PSP going strong), with all the consoles being varying degrees of failures.

Calling Wii a "market leader" is borderline deceptive imo.  It's more like a novelty platform that took off for a brief while.  PS3's pretty much been a (very expensive) failure and 360's like an abortion (though still at least an improvement from last gen).

No, it isn't "deceptive" at all. On home console sales, it leads the pack, but has dropped the worst over the course of 4.5 years. That's all the point was after, all else is making a debate out of nothing.

It's an arbitrary market distinction (rooted in an entirely western viewpoint), Japan doesn't view home or portable consoles in different categories these days.  Japan's market leaders were platforms like Famicom, PlayStation or Nintendo DS.  Wii is pretty far from that, not what anyone should consider a "market leader" this generation in Japan.  At best, it's a semi-popular supplementary platform (though even there, I'd put PSP ahead of it).



Moren on 09 March 2011

I wonder what will happen when "the Mario" 3DS arrives.

(Not the upcoming 3D one, but a sidescrolling one)



Boutros on 09 March 2011
Bruno Muñoz said:

I think that NIS should have released Disgaea 4 on PSP now that the system looks unstoppable and after the not so encouraging Disgaea 3 sales, Disgaea PSP ports sold 100k units.

On top of it PS3 games always have very crappy legs, an 84% drop is abysmal.

Makai Senki Disgaea Portable: Tsuushin Taisen Hajimemashita --- 16,517 / 107,169

Disgaea 2: Dark Hero Days --- 36,491 / 101,688

The Disgaea franchise is bigger in Americas than in Japan so I don't see the point of releasing it on the PSP.

It would have done better in Japan but horribly everywhere else.



Zlejedi on 09 March 2011

Nice week PSP didn't even notice there's some competitor that just launched ;)



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