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Conegamer said:

But that's the point. It would be in the favour of the 3DS if you did that!

So why is it so in favour of the PSP2? There's plenty of areas which include just ticks for the PSP2, so clearly it isn't comparing as to gloating about their USP

Ipod isn't a gaming device, so putting gaming related stuff like backwards compatibility is unfair for the ipod.

That's what I meant. The reason why its so much in favour is because PSP2 has the most technical features among the three systems. 

3DS is second so if anything the list is biased against ipod. Add "backwards compatibility" in the chart and PSP2 will still have one tick, 3DS will have 2, ipod will have 0. Wouldn't that be unfair for the ipod?



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mantlepiecek said:
Conegamer said:

But that's the point. It would be in the favour of the 3DS if you did that!

So why is it so in favour of the PSP2? There's plenty of areas which include just ticks for the PSP2, so clearly it isn't comparing as to gloating about their USP

Ipod isn't a gaming device, so putting gaming related stuff like backwards compatibility is unfair for the ipod.

That's what I meant. The reason why its so much in favour is because PSP2 has the most technical features among the three systems. 

3DS is second so if anything the list is biased against ipod. Add "backwards compatibility" in the chart and PSP2 will still have one tick, 3DS will have 2, ipod will have 0. Wouldn't that be unfair for the ipod?

That's exactly my point. You could say that the 3DS' backwards compatibilty is a USP, and you can't compare USP, otherwise you'd have a few ticks for each in different rows



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

Ipod is a gaming device, even has a gamecenter for placing people together and achievements. 



When Ninty and Sony think of their devices the first point of attack is games, that's the handheld's main feature.Everything is built around gaming and then stuff like photgraphs, chat, music, films etc, is thrown in.

Apple first seems to be concerned with how the thing looks and how many different thing they can get the thing to do through apps, from being a sat nav to a gaming device to turning on your coffee machine.

Nintendo and Sony market their devices as gaming consoles. Apple market the iPod touch as a .. God knows what.

Go to PSP2 or 3DS homepage and gaming flies straight out at you.

Go to the iPod touch webpage and gaming is like down the list after video editing stuff.

For Apple iPod touch to be considered along with DS and PSP as a genuine gaming device is truly genius on Apple's part.

Saying all that, I play iPhone games and some are great, but yet .. a bonafide gaming device..I don't know, maybe I am missing something.

 



Conegamer said:
Zlejedi said:
Conegamer said:
trent44 said:

I dunno, hardware wise I think its pretty clear that PSP2>3DS>Ipod

So, as far as multiplatform games go I think the PSP2 would be the default choice.

All of these platforms offer cheap small downloadable titles (via eshop, psp mini/ps suite, app store) though larger budget titles seem to be mostly limited to the 3DS and PSP2 due to price points and control options.

However after that fact, what is really important is exclusive quality game content. Both 3DS and PSP2 will have this as a strong point.

This is an area where iOS games struggles as they are often very cheap disposable game experiences; and, if popular have a slew of shameless imitators. This leaves the consumer with an impossible chore of sifting though thousands upon thousands worthless of games, unless the consumer is told by marketing or by a mass consumer base which game to buy (and being told what to buy is never ideal as marketing would control success rather than game quality).

I agree, but that table looks a bit biased towards Sony IMO...

Yeah because saying truth about hardware is obvious sign of bias ;)

Look at what dude below me says

Let's talk about 2 screens, 3D screens, Nintendo games, 3 cameras etc. so...

Maybe reading charts about video games isn't quite your thing, but I kind of recall this website being named after something...hmmm

Anyway, if you look closely at the screens sections on the chart it has 1 check for PSP2's 5" screen at 220ppi and and 2 checks for the 3DS's one for the 3.02" screen at 132ppi (this screen is counted again under touch surfaces section) and another check for the 3DS's 3.52" stereoscopic screen (this means 3D screen) at 132ppi.

Games are a software comparison which which is irrelevant in a hardware comparison chart; though, my proceeding text in my comment may talk about the software for each of these platforms, for the chart itself it is not relevant.

And under the cameras section there is clearly 2 checks for the PSP2's 2 cameras, 3 checks for the 3DS's 3 cameras, and 2 checks for the iPod's 2 cameras.

All that I am wondering is why you feel the 3DS is unfairly represented by the hardware that it contains?



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presentation is everything!

having red x's means badd not good.. in a chart where there are green ticks..

 

or its just a badly made chart to use for comparison..



 

I have a smartphone because it's a phone. I'd play casual games on a phone,but nothing to deep as that's what I have my ps3 for.



Playstation phone? :P No but in all seriousness, NGP could techically be a phone i mean it has a touch pad and 3G connectivity. The only thing it needs with those feratures to fully become a phone is software. What i am saying is that if NGP could be sold as a gamers device formost with the ability to also be a phone, it can become very interesting since it looks like Sony is targeting a lower price range. Being the most powerful portable gaming device on the market (with the ability to double as a phone) and still be cheaper than the majority of smartphones can bode well for Sony.



those people who only play games on smartphone are people who don't want or can't pay for hi-quality games, they are not real gamers after all, cheapo gamers they are, this is like competing cheap car sells with luxury car sells number, so does it mean luxury cars are dead...? just think about it fool...



AnveL said:

those people who only play games on smartphone are people who don't want or can't pay for hi-quality games, they are not real gamers after all, cheapo gamers they are, this is like competing cheap car sells with luxury car sells number, so does it mean luxury cars are dead...? just think about it fool...

So lets say that in 2000 20% of car owners have luxury cars, but today its 15% (just completely made up numbers for the sake of argument). Of course these things matter even if its not for the same people.

Dead is a strong word though, but if smartphones is the future of portable gaming, you will see decline in portable sales. Since the "cheapo gamers" as you call them are actually a part of the game sales.