@ trestres

And you think all of a sudden developpers are going to care about another Nintendo console if even a smashing success like the Wii has been able to be third party friendly? Why should they be interested by this new console if it's not release some easy ports and stop doing that the moment the PS4 and 720 will be released? I don't say that the third party support is good for the Wii right now. It's bad especially in Japan but please explain how a new console would magically change that. The 3DS has a really good support from third party because the DS has shown to them that they could be successful on a Nintendo handheld but I hope that you certainly don't expect the same kind of support for a Nintendo new console after the Wii's third party debacle.Speaking for myself I certainly don't.

The only way to make the third party devs work on their console is to prove them that they can be successful on it everything else is bullshit and to obtain that you have to create a viable market for their games. Just Dance is a success because Nintendo has released games like WS, WSR, Wii Fit, which has create a market... But now after releasing 2D and 3D Mario games, DKCR, Kirby... there is certainly a market  for platform games as well like the good sales of EM and Sonic have proven. That's how you create a market viable for third parties. What they should do imo is just releasing more traditional games like RPGs or FPS because third parties know how to create those games. That's what they trying to do right now wth the releases of games like Xenoblade, TLS, Zelda, DQX probably and Pandora Tower. That's the right thing to do to improve third party support and having a big installed base can only help.

Yomiuri asked about Nintendo's plans for video downloads. "The 3DS will be the first 3D video playback device to reach major penetration," said Iwata. "We've had many proposals from the film, music and such industries. We're looking into distributing Hollywood trailers and movies, along with things like 3D reference software."

Many people say basically the same thing : that Nintendo should release a successor to the Wii as soon as they can because it will never have a decent third party support. But I don't see how releasing a new console now would change that: why would developers work on a new Nintendo console with an inexistant installed base rather than on the Wii? In order to have a good third party support this new console would need to have basically the same power than the PS360 in order to have ports. But the problem is that when the much more powerful next home consoles from Sony and MS will be released in few years, developers will probably once again stop developping for the Nintendo console and start making more graphically advanced software for PS4 and 720. So releasing a new console now doesn't make sense for Nintendo imo. This is as stupid as the Pachter's Wii HD idea.

On the other hand the Wii has a huge installed base, it only lacks some HCG. The situation is evolving favorably imo as more and more third party games are selling very well on the sysem like EM, COD; BO,  Golden Eye or Sonic Colors last year. And the more they will manage to attract more (hardcore) gamers the more these kind of third party successes will be common. So instead of releasing a new console early Nintendo should try to maintain the Wii as long as they can, releasing more hardcore games probably and games that third party can "duplicate" -like RPGs or even FPS- in order to create a more viable market for all kind of content. Once they will have a more decent third party support, when they will have proved to third parties that they can be successful on their system, then it will be the right time to release another console. And if they can't do that at least they should wait for the next Sony and MS consoles before launching the Wii2 because rushing things could only hurt them in the long term.

Lol, stop day dreaming. The situation is getting worse by the day. The Wii used to have those kinds of games announced earlier in its life by 3rd parties, but now they are gone. The games you name have no impact AT ALL an third parties don't give a fuck about what Nintendo does or does not release. Besides Xenoblade, TLS, Pandora's Tower are all Japan exclusive at the moment, which points at major internal problems and misjudging by Nintendo of Japan when deciding the localization of games. Stop kidding yourself expecting a Wii revival. The console is dead to third parties and there's nothing Nintendo can do about that.

Nintendo can now openly show their plans of a future console to third parties and search for support. It's way better than releasing an RPG only in Japan and pretending that it will be the saving grace of an almost dead console.

I think you don't understand my point : I'm not saying that it's possible to have an amazing support from third parties on Wii, I'm saying that it is possible to at least improve it and it's certainly easier to do that by trying to capitalize on DQX helped by all the other software I have listed than by releasing a new console. That's my point.

But please again explain me how your solution of releasing a console with an installed base of 0 gamers would be better, I'm listening.

"Ask Nintendo why they decided to release a new handheld when their installed base was of 150 million. It's called console life cycles and their are inevitable. Once SW sales start to decrease and attach ratios of installed base/yearly software decreases, then it's time to move on. Why are third parties supporting the 3DS?"

Again Nintendo is not in the same position when it comes to handheld: third parties have been really successful on the DS not on the Wii. That's the whole difference so if they don't improve the situation on the Wii there is really no reason to believe that the third partiy support will be decent for their next console too. It's not like they have the choice really imo.

Many people say basically the same thing : that Nintendo should release a successor to the Wii as soon as they can because it will never have a decent third party support. But I don't see how releasing a new console now would change that: why would developers work on a new Nintendo console with an inexistant installed base rather than on the Wii? In order to have a good third party support this new console would need to have basically the same power than the PS360 in order to have ports. But the problem is that when the much more powerful next home consoles from Sony and MS will be released in few years, developers will probably once again stop developping for the Nintendo console and start making more graphically advanced software for PS4 and 720. So releasing a new console now doesn't make sense for Nintendo imo. This is as stupid as the Pachter's Wii HD idea.

What better that start from zero then if the current console isn't satisfying their needs? There's nothing else they can do. Either a new platform accompained by an overhaul on certain aspects and better relations with 3rd parties.

Or keep on selling only 1st party SW on the Wii. I cannot see third parties getting excited about The Last Story selling 150k units in Japoan when there's RPG's that destroy that number. Plus Nintendo is giving the bad example of not localizing their games, which is seen as the West doesn't care for such games etc.

What would your solution be? I'm eagerly listening.