You could always ask Google.

All this after 3 months is pretty great...

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f178/ps3-backup-managers-emulators-homebrew-list-68925/

http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=17554#axzz1F0w1Wpt7

Wouldn't that have been solved by... Sony not selling the PS3 for a loss.  You are basically saying, Sony should be protected for making poor buisness decisions, and because tangentially something he did was used in a wrong way.

That's like saying gunmakers should be forced to store owners money because the guns they make may of been used to rob stores that don't have robbery insurance.

Laws shouldn't be crafted around poor buisness decisions.

"Wouldn't that have been solved by... Sony not selling the PS3 for a loss.  You are basically saying, Sony should be protected for making poor buisness decisions, and because tangentially something he did was used in a wrong way."

You're not in a position to claim their business strategy is just wrong. Selling consoles for a loss at launch to recoup with software has always been a successful strategy for them (and not only for Sony). And it's besides the point anyway.

And I'm not saying Sony should be protected, I'm saying Sony is right to protect themselves and all the software studios etc that depend on them.

"That's like saying gunmakers should be forced to store owners money because the guns they make may of been used to rob stores that don't have robbery insurance."

I fail to see how this analogy has anything to do with the discussion.

And they have the right to protect themselves by basically controlling the hardware they sold to us? We should all bend over for our corporate overlords and give up any right we have to hardware we bought with the money we earned?

What would really solve it is.. Geo not trying to break security which would allow him and others access to information conected to peoples wallets/ pirate games/ steal shit. Which is illegal.

If this is going to put them out of buisness... yes I am in the position to say that.  You are claiming they have a right to protect themself, because if consumers are able to use their hardware how they want, sony and developers will go out of buisness because SOME of them will abuse that by doing something illegal.

Also, yes... that IS protecting Sony, by making laws that restrict consumer rights because there are negative side effects... that are only negative when a poor buisness strategy  is made.

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So, either it's a bad strategy, and your wrong, or it's not a bad strategy, and your point is invalidated.

You have the right to do what you want with your console (as long as its legal) you just are going to have to decide what you value more. Dont tell anyone what or how you are doing it. Also would we be having this discussion if he had not spread the code?

There are many problems with your post (pirating =/= stealing, legallity =/= morallity, etc.) but I'll just talk about why the hacker has every right to break the security on the product that he bought. He bought the product with his own money. He has every right to the product. He can alter in any way shape or form. When I get a book, I can scribble in it, cross sections out, and do whatever I want with it. Same thing with the PS3. Your right is that you bought it and therefore you should be able to open it and alternate it as you see fit. That's your RIGHT, not your privelege. If you think otherwise, I suggest you think a little more on the issue.

As for not telling anyone, that's a whole different issue. It is fairly well known, if you give someone hardware, it will be opened and its depths plunged for every bit of information, security or not. If your plan on making money on the assumption that the hardware you sell won't be completely open in the future, then you deserve to go out of business for thinking such idiotic things.

"And they have the right to protect themselves by basically controlling the hardware they sold to us? We should all bend over for our corporate overlords and give up any right we have to hardware we bought with the money we earned?"

It's your choice. Don't buy the thing if you think it's a bad proposition. It's really that simple.

He... didn't do that?  He broke the secuirty that prevented a lot of other stuff... and then people went from their and broke into that stuff.

Well except the Credit Card shit... that's been around forever... because Sony doesn't encrypt the information it sends out... because... I have no idea why.

Regardless, it's been consistantly ruled that when a company ties the "legal" protections with the "illegal ones" they lose any right to litigation because they, not the hackers made it so that one had to be breached, to breach the other.

Unless there is a surprise ruling... they should lose on that count.

See the recent phone rulings... it was ruled legal because the same steps needed to make use  of legal locked programs allowed piracy.

The piracy is still illegal, but not the jailbreaking iteslf.