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chapset on 24 February 2011

If Sony wins and owns all ps3 does that means very single ps3 made stock pile at their warehouse would be sold to consumers now??? is this how Sony really want to win the console war, despicable. I wouldn't be surprise if this a cover up for the failure of the move



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MrBubbles on 24 February 2011
phinch1 said:
Zkuq said:
Nomad Blue said:

And why/how would you no longer own a product you bought?

Obviously if someone else can tell what you may or may not do with the product you bought, you don't actually own it.


It's everywhere in life get use to it, if you buy your house and the land its on, you own it right? you want to build an extension on your land because its yours and you  can do what you want with it right? Wrong! you first have to get permision off the council, and if they say no to your idea of an extension you can't build it, ignoring them and doing so and you'd be breaking the law

You buy a lorry, its resticted to 60mph you want it to go faster, so you derestrict it.... i mean its your property you can do what you want with it! Wrong again , law stands in the way

I bought a dog.........stammped on its head til it died, I bought it i can do with it what i want can't i?


You cannot just do whatever you want to something you own if there are laws saying otherwise,
and if you do go and do it, Don't fricken cry about it when you get taken to court or arrested over it

ffs sake people grow up


r u retarded?  you are telling people to grow up when you just compared this to stomping on a dogs head? 



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fordy on 24 February 2011
phinch1 said:
Zkuq said:
Nomad Blue said:

And why/how would you no longer own a product you bought?

Obviously if someone else can tell what you may or may not do with the product you bought, you don't actually own it.


It's everywhere in life get use to it, if you buy your house and the land its on, you own it right? you want to build an extension on your land because its yours and you  can do what you want with it right? Wrong! you first have to get permision off the council, and if they say no to your idea of an extension you can't build it, ignoring them and doing so and you'd be breaking the law

You buy a lorry, its resticted to 60mph you want it to go faster, so you derestrict it.... i mean its your property you can do what you want with it! Wrong again , law stands in the way

I bought a dog.........stammped on its head til it died, I bought it i can do with it what i want can't i?


You cannot just do whatever you want to something you own if there are laws saying otherwise,
and if you do go and do it, Don't fricken cry about it when you get taken to court or arrested over it

ffs sake people grow up

Seriously, if you had at least half a brain, you juuust might be dangerous.

Now, let me tell you where your argument falls flat on it's face. See any resemblance to the examples that you provided? No? They're government regulated. Government regulate certain things for public interest.

Sony wanting to claim a sold PS3 as theirs is known as a CORPORATE INTEREST. Some laws are in place to protect corporations, yes (contract binding, copyright etc), but it is unlawful for Sony to claim ownership of your PS3 and regulate it in their interests. That is borderline monopolistic.

The police and courts aren't Sony's personal attack dogs, and you should not be promoting that they are. Spreading idiocy only creates more idiots.

By the way,  owning a house but still not being able to do certain things does not mean that you don't OWN the house. Sony are going for PS3 ownership, much like software licensing, you will have to buy a "PS3 license" which means you're allowed to rent a PS3 for use from Sony.



phinch1 on 25 February 2011
MrBubbles said:
phinch1 said:
Zkuq said:
Nomad Blue said:

And why/how would you no longer own a product you bought?

Obviously if someone else can tell what you may or may not do with the product you bought, you don't actually own it.


It's everywhere in life get use to it, if you buy your house and the land its on, you own it right? you want to build an extension on your land because its yours and you  can do what you want with it right? Wrong! you first have to get permision off the council, and if they say no to your idea of an extension you can't build it, ignoring them and doing so and you'd be breaking the law

You buy a lorry, its resticted to 60mph you want it to go faster, so you derestrict it.... i mean its your property you can do what you want with it! Wrong again , law stands in the way

I bought a dog.........stammped on its head til it died, I bought it i can do with it what i want can't i?


You cannot just do whatever you want to something you own if there are laws saying otherwise,
and if you do go and do it, Don't fricken cry about it when you get taken to court or arrested over it

ffs sake people grow up


r u retarded?  you are telling people to grow up when you just compared this to stomping on a dogs head? 


I was just showing how silly you can go with the "It's my property i can do what i want with it" when quiet clearley you can't do what you wan't with it..........no dogs were hurt in the making of my comment



phinch1 on 25 February 2011
fordy said:
phinch1 said:
Zkuq said:
Nomad Blue said:

And why/how would you no longer own a product you bought?

Obviously if someone else can tell what you may or may not do with the product you bought, you don't actually own it.


It's everywhere in life get use to it, if you buy your house and the land its on, you own it right? you want to build an extension on your land because its yours and you  can do what you want with it right? Wrong! you first have to get permision off the council, and if they say no to your idea of an extension you can't build it, ignoring them and doing so and you'd be breaking the law

You buy a lorry, its resticted to 60mph you want it to go faster, so you derestrict it.... i mean its your property you can do what you want with it! Wrong again , law stands in the way

I bought a dog.........stammped on its head til it died, I bought it i can do with it what i want can't i?


You cannot just do whatever you want to something you own if there are laws saying otherwise,
and if you do go and do it, Don't fricken cry about it when you get taken to court or arrested over it

ffs sake people grow up

Seriously, if you had at least half a brain, you juuust might be dangerous.

Now, let me tell you where your argument falls flat on it's face. See any resemblance to the examples that you provided? No? They're government regulated. Government regulate certain things for public interest.

Sony wanting to claim a sold PS3 as theirs is known as a CORPORATE INTEREST. Some laws are in place to protect corporations, yes (contract binding, copyright etc), but it is unlawful for Sony to claim ownership of your PS3 and regulate it in their interests. That is borderline monopolistic.

The police and courts aren't Sony's personal attack dogs, and you should not be promoting that they are. Spreading idiocy only creates more idiots.

By the way,  owning a house but still not being able to do certain things does not mean that you don't OWN the house. Sony are going for PS3 ownership, much like software licensing, you will have to buy a "PS3 license" which means you're allowed to rent a PS3 for use from Sony.

I never said that you don't own the house, I said you just can't do what you want with it...well technically you could, but if you get caught you'd be done for breaking the law, much like the case for modding the ps3 software



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Kasz216 on 25 February 2011
goforgold said:
Zkuq said:
goforgold said:

noooooooo you'll just ONLY be able to use a product the way it was meant to be used. So when Sony releases a product for a certain purpose it will only ever be used for that purpose. SO terrible XD

Do you really believe that bullshit? That you're not allowed to do what you want to do with the product you own?

yes, you are NOT suppose to do whatever you want with a product, however, that isn't why Sony is suing him (this is the part where you completely ignore everything I'm about to say) because Sony doesn't care, Sony could careless that you mod your system, what they do care about is releasing that mod to everyone else knowing full well what could happen. See intellectual property is something you "mah consumer rightz" people have to get familiar with. It's not up to you the consumer to decide what the hell a product should or should not do, you know who does however....the people who made the damn thing, and yes they have the RIGHT to do that, and if your mad a product is able to do what you want the the only RIGHT you have is to buy another product or better MAKE YOUR OWN!!!!!!!


Then why does the lawsuit include sueing him for modding his console.  Also, it's TOTALLY up to a product for a consumer to make a product do what it does.

A comanys say at what their product does ends when they sell it.

Leonardo Divinchi could sell me a painting, and if I want to add unicorns to that painting it's my right to.


On topic though... what a waste of money... sony should take a hint from Microsoft and Nintendo, people who have been in the sofjtware buisness longer.



goforgold on 25 February 2011
Kasz216 said:
goforgold said:
Zkuq said:
goforgold said:

noooooooo you'll just ONLY be able to use a product the way it was meant to be used. So when Sony releases a product for a certain purpose it will only ever be used for that purpose. SO terrible XD

Do you really believe that bullshit? That you're not allowed to do what you want to do with the product you own?

yes, you are NOT suppose to do whatever you want with a product, however, that isn't why Sony is suing him (this is the part where you completely ignore everything I'm about to say) because Sony doesn't care, Sony could careless that you mod your system, what they do care about is releasing that mod to everyone else knowing full well what could happen. See intellectual property is something you "mah consumer rightz" people have to get familiar with. It's not up to you the consumer to decide what the hell a product should or should not do, you know who does however....the people who made the damn thing, and yes they have the RIGHT to do that, and if your mad a product is able to do what you want the the only RIGHT you have is to buy another product or better MAKE YOUR OWN!!!!!!!


Then why does the lawsuit include sueing him for modding his console.  Also, it's TOTALLY up to a product for a consumer to make a product do what it does.

A comanys say at what their product does ends when they sell it.

Leonardo Divinchi could sell me a painting, and if I want to add unicorns to that painting it's my right to.


On topic though... what a waste of money... sony should take a hint from Microsoft and Nintendo, people who have been in the sofjtware buisness longer.

moddifying Sony's software which he DID isn't right, but that is no where near the back bone of the lawsuit.

and they painting anaolgy is a moot point as the painting only purpose is to sit on a wall, ps3 is host to a network of millions to which software BELONGS to Sony.



fordy on 25 February 2011
phinch1 said:
fordy said:
phinch1 said:
Zkuq said:
Nomad Blue said:

And why/how would you no longer own a product you bought?

Obviously if someone else can tell what you may or may not do with the product you bought, you don't actually own it.


It's everywhere in life get use to it, if you buy your house and the land its on, you own it right? you want to build an extension on your land because its yours and you  can do what you want with it right? Wrong! you first have to get permision off the council, and if they say no to your idea of an extension you can't build it, ignoring them and doing so and you'd be breaking the law

You buy a lorry, its resticted to 60mph you want it to go faster, so you derestrict it.... i mean its your property you can do what you want with it! Wrong again , law stands in the way

I bought a dog.........stammped on its head til it died, I bought it i can do with it what i want can't i?


You cannot just do whatever you want to something you own if there are laws saying otherwise,
and if you do go and do it, Don't fricken cry about it when you get taken to court or arrested over it

ffs sake people grow up

Seriously, if you had at least half a brain, you juuust might be dangerous.

Now, let me tell you where your argument falls flat on it's face. See any resemblance to the examples that you provided? No? They're government regulated. Government regulate certain things for public interest.

Sony wanting to claim a sold PS3 as theirs is known as a CORPORATE INTEREST. Some laws are in place to protect corporations, yes (contract binding, copyright etc), but it is unlawful for Sony to claim ownership of your PS3 and regulate it in their interests. That is borderline monopolistic.

The police and courts aren't Sony's personal attack dogs, and you should not be promoting that they are. Spreading idiocy only creates more idiots.

By the way,  owning a house but still not being able to do certain things does not mean that you don't OWN the house. Sony are going for PS3 ownership, much like software licensing, you will have to buy a "PS3 license" which means you're allowed to rent a PS3 for use from Sony.

I never said that you don't own the house, I said you just can't do what you want with it...well technically you could, but if you get caught you'd be done for breaking the law, much like the case for modding the ps3 software


Once again, corporate interest. The only corporate interest that the law enforces are binding contracts, copyright etc. It's why we live in a Democracy, and not a Corporate Oligarchy

The software was actualy modded with the PS3 Update program, too, so it would be difficult to charge them with that.



Kasz216 on 25 February 2011
goforgold said:
Kasz216 said:
goforgold said:
Zkuq said:
goforgold said:

noooooooo you'll just ONLY be able to use a product the way it was meant to be used. So when Sony releases a product for a certain purpose it will only ever be used for that purpose. SO terrible XD

Do you really believe that bullshit? That you're not allowed to do what you want to do with the product you own?

yes, you are NOT suppose to do whatever you want with a product, however, that isn't why Sony is suing him (this is the part where you completely ignore everything I'm about to say) because Sony doesn't care, Sony could careless that you mod your system, what they do care about is releasing that mod to everyone else knowing full well what could happen. See intellectual property is something you "mah consumer rightz" people have to get familiar with. It's not up to you the consumer to decide what the hell a product should or should not do, you know who does however....the people who made the damn thing, and yes they have the RIGHT to do that, and if your mad a product is able to do what you want the the only RIGHT you have is to buy another product or better MAKE YOUR OWN!!!!!!!


Then why does the lawsuit include sueing him for modding his console.  Also, it's TOTALLY up to a product for a consumer to make a product do what it does.

A comanys say at what their product does ends when they sell it.

Leonardo Divinchi could sell me a painting, and if I want to add unicorns to that painting it's my right to.


On topic though... what a waste of money... sony should take a hint from Microsoft and Nintendo, people who have been in the sofjtware buisness longer.

moddifying Sony's software which he DID isn't right, but that is no where near the back bone of the lawsuit.

and they painting anaolgy is a moot point as the painting only purpose is to sit on a wall, ps3 is host to a network of millions to which software BELONGS to Sony.

The playstation network is mentioend nowhere in the lawsuit.  So... that has even less to do with it?



phinch1 on 25 February 2011
fordy said:
phinch1 said:
fordy said:
phinch1 said:
Zkuq said:
Nomad Blue said:

And why/how would you no longer own a product you bought?

Obviously if someone else can tell what you may or may not do with the product you bought, you don't actually own it.


It's everywhere in life get use to it, if you buy your house and the land its on, you own it right? you want to build an extension on your land because its yours and you  can do what you want with it right? Wrong! you first have to get permision off the council, and if they say no to your idea of an extension you can't build it, ignoring them and doing so and you'd be breaking the law

You buy a lorry, its resticted to 60mph you want it to go faster, so you derestrict it.... i mean its your property you can do what you want with it! Wrong again , law stands in the way

I bought a dog.........stammped on its head til it died, I bought it i can do with it what i want can't i?


You cannot just do whatever you want to something you own if there are laws saying otherwise,
and if you do go and do it, Don't fricken cry about it when you get taken to court or arrested over it

ffs sake people grow up

Seriously, if you had at least half a brain, you juuust might be dangerous.

Now, let me tell you where your argument falls flat on it's face. See any resemblance to the examples that you provided? No? They're government regulated. Government regulate certain things for public interest.

Sony wanting to claim a sold PS3 as theirs is known as a CORPORATE INTEREST. Some laws are in place to protect corporations, yes (contract binding, copyright etc), but it is unlawful for Sony to claim ownership of your PS3 and regulate it in their interests. That is borderline monopolistic.

The police and courts aren't Sony's personal attack dogs, and you should not be promoting that they are. Spreading idiocy only creates more idiots.

By the way,  owning a house but still not being able to do certain things does not mean that you don't OWN the house. Sony are going for PS3 ownership, much like software licensing, you will have to buy a "PS3 license" which means you're allowed to rent a PS3 for use from Sony.

I never said that you don't own the house, I said you just can't do what you want with it...well technically you could, but if you get caught you'd be done for breaking the law, much like the case for modding the ps3 software


Once again, corporate interest. The only corporate interest that the law enforces are binding contracts, copyright etc. It's why we live in a Democracy, and not a Corporate Oligarchy

The software was actualy modded with the PS3 Update program, too, so it would be difficult to charge them with that.


ok, back to my point which you didnt answer, is it ok in every case to say "it's my property ill do what i want with it" even if it breaks rules/laws that end up with you in court, is that statment a mature excuse/response to say to the judge?

i just want a simple yes or no