I know, I know. One's a multiplat and ones exclusvie. It would make sense for Rising to sell better than 4, however... Rising, although it looks cool to me, still has the sting of  being a spinoff sidestory.  Even after those cool ass sequences in 4 with Raiden it seems that Americans still arent impressed. But they love him in Japan and not sure about the Euro places. although the game is multiplat im not quite sure if the game will make a huge splash 360. No one in Japan is buying it for 360 and again i think the Euro #s will be lower than PS3s. It seems that the MS will throw some ad muscle like they did for FF13 but lets be real, it wont work. PS3 US version still trounced 360 version despite having no exclusive ads. Some franchises are just tied to a brand no matter how much other consoles you put it on. (MGS, FF = PS, ME, Bioshock = MS). That brings me back to Raiden, will 360 owners even embrace him as the main character seeing that he is not as popular as Snake Big Boss??? Hell will US players embrace him period???   Amazon.com had an original release date for June, now it has one for Nov 11 of THIS year. That could be a crap date but MGS4 had much more hype surrounding it than this game does. and im not quite sure its because it has nothing to do with it not being exclusive.

Im a hardcore Metal Gear fan (as if you could not tell) so im looking forward to seeing how Raiden went all Ghost in the Shell, not quite sure if everyone else will.

I think I am going to pass on MGS Rising as Kojima is not working on it and its not even a stealth game anymore(afaik), I might get it if it gets very good word of mouth though. 

And its releasing next year.

I have no clue TBH. It all comes down how much add muscle they put behind it and how fun the game will be. I was never the biggest MGS fan myself, but Im not impressed by Rising thus far. I would have prefered a more NG gameplay for it. The camera looks a bit stubborn for a h&s, and thats not good in my eyes. I know that Kojima is behind it, but Im still not sold.

Will it do a couple of million? Hell yeah! Will it sell 5 million like MGS4 ( maybe even 6 LT)? I wouldent bet a leg on it.

Still, worst case, I could see it doing at least 3 million ( 2 million PS3 1 million 360), but it could turn out a massive hit, and go up to 6-8 million. Time will tell, first we need a concrete release date for it.

Isnt he supervising it? I mean, if he does, look how good Castlevania turned out to be

I don't think it will because it's not mainline Metal Gear. I think it will hit 3M or so in the end.

man i forgot that Kojima was not directing this, thats another thing that MGS Rising has againsnt it. (unless you hate Kojima) but Portable Ops turned out to be good. 

MGS 4 without Kojima is like a body without a heart.

A rose by any other name wouldn't smell so sweet.

Even if it is being supervised by the gods, its already lost one point.

Its not stealth :(

There are very few stealth games, conviction gone, rising gone, what has become of this industry? Not fair.

EWW NO.

Its a spin off remember.

Kojima aint directing either

I really don't think so. BTW if kojima is not working on rising, what is he working on?MGS5?

I doubt it for the reasons stated above.

But if it's meant to hit mainstream appeal and ends up succeeding...I'm ready to just quit gaming.