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Avinash_Tyagi said:
Mountie said:
Damn it Avinash, no one in this thread has implied that the PS3 will completely dominate next year. That has happened in other threads but not this one. Don't just assume everyone is a freaking fanboy like yourself. Look at the thread title: "saved from embarrasment". Keep your comments on topic.

There are plenty of PS3 fanboys eating humble pie but there is EVERY JUSTIFIABLE REASON to assume the PS3 will sell better next year.

 Actually people in this thread have commented that these games will fix the "japan problem" for PS3, not going to happen, nor will it result in a permanent boost, but rather short term spikes in sales


Dude, you're a ****ing moron. No one is talking about the PS3 setting the Japan sales a light. We are talking about creating a niche userbase within Japan for PS3 games to sell and will FFXIII create a 20mil userbase? Of course not, but that is not what anyone is saying. All the PS3 needs is 5-7mil hardcore userbase in Japan for their games to get respectable sales in. That's it and FFXIII, Versus XIII will provide that.

PS3 doesn't need to sell more then the Wii to be successful. The 2 systems are so diversly different from one another that only the hardcore idiots on the internet bother to even compare them.

That's why being a casual/core fan is so much better. None of this e-penis bullshit.

It's funny, I enjoyed gaming so much more before I came online in internet forums in the last 2-3 years. Ironic that.



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You're living in a dream world if you think FF13 and versus will propel the PS3 to 5-7 million consoles sold, even FF7 couldn't push more than a few Million Playstations.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

The only Final Fantasy games that should matter are FFVII and Final Fantasy X, as every subsequent Final Fantasy game that followed those games on their respected console didn't sell as much as the first entrant.

Final Fantasy VII got that many sales because it was the first Final Fantasy game in 3-D. Also, Final Fantasy VII came out 2 years after the PS1 was launched, while FFX came out a year later after the PS2 launched.



It should be noted that PS1 and 2 had over 5 million in console sales in Japan by the time those two games launched and were already the leading consoles, it is highly unlikely that FF13 and VS. will be able to propel the PS3 as far as some believe



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sorair said:
Spectrumglr said:
jhlennon1 said:
Final Fantasy XIII will fix the Japan problem, so I am not too concerned about that.

short term...isn't it?


No there is no short term once FFXIII finishes releasing right after FFXIII, then you have Final Fantasy versus XIII and White Knight Story, The Last Renament, which is going to sell better on the PS3 than on the 360 in Japan.., 


 Yup it'll help the PS3 sell 1 or 2 million more consoles, Woo, so instead of being behind the GCN it'll be a little ahead, woo


Its pretty obvious from his writing that he doesn't think 2 consoles can co-exist in Japan.

I was a GC and PS2 owner, but obviously Avinash has some deep-seated hatred towards Sony for crushing his precious GamCube. I can't see any other reason for such ramblings and blatant fanboyism. This gen he thinks the same thing will happen but in reverse.

 Avinash, the PS3 will smash the 4 million or so GC's sold in Japan. That I can guarantee. I'd put it in my sig for your benefit, but I think I'd get made fun of for making such an easy prediction.



Prediction:

The PS2 & PS3 will outsell the Wii in 2008.

Lifetime sales of PS3 in Japan will be at least 8 million consoles.

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Jandre02 said:
Wii has wider appeal than the PS3!? Its obssession, fascination, but its not something that will last for years. Its not games that are selling the Wii, its the Wii itself. Once you have tried it a few times you've experienced all the Wii has to offer for the next 7 years. Little kids, sure, they will play for years because they dont care so much for AI and graphics. They just like how they can swing the controller and hit people.

GROWN MEN DONT PLAY THE WII. If you are a grown man playing a Wii by yourself, outside of Wii Sports, you probably have less friends than the PS3 has games.

(little joke there, i love my PS3.)

HA! If  you were to tell me that Wii is all about fascination and obssession pretty much shows that you have never enjoyed a good Nintendo game. Right now I could call some friends and tell them "let's play Smash Bros or Mario Kart" and most likely they would because those games have LONG staying fun factor in them.

 

Saying that a grown man playing other Wii games besides Wii Sports must not have friends is pretty ironic argument. A PS3 fanboy probably HAS less friends because most PS3 games involve one player (MGS4 anyone? FFXIII??? Heavenly Sword?? shall I continue? :) The Wii on the other hand requires people to be physically present to enjoy a gaming session unlike the PS3! Now, if you consider online friends real friends well then.......... ;)



What are you looking at, nerd?
Mountie said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sorair said:
Spectrumglr said:
jhlennon1 said:
Final Fantasy XIII will fix the Japan problem, so I am not too concerned about that.

short term...isn't it?


No there is no short term once FFXIII finishes releasing right after FFXIII, then you have Final Fantasy versus XIII and White Knight Story, The Last Renament, which is going to sell better on the PS3 than on the 360 in Japan.., 


 Yup it'll help the PS3 sell 1 or 2 million more consoles, Woo, so instead of being behind the GCN it'll be a little ahead, woo


Its pretty obvious from his writing that he doesn't think 2 consoles can co-exist in Japan.

I was a GC and PS2 owner, but obviously Avinash has some deep-seated hatred towards Sony for crushing his precious GamCube. I can't see any other reason for such ramblings and blatant fanboyism. This gen he thinks the same thing will happen but in reverse.

 Avinash, the PS3 will smash the 4 million or so GC's sold in Japan. That I can guarantee. I'd put it in my sig for your benefit, but I think I'd get made fun of for making such an easy prediction.


You'll notice my comment was intended to be sarcastic, PS3 may beat the GCN, but the fact is it won't climb much above it, maybe 5-6 million total, I was pointing out its current relative position to the GCN and how much these games will actually help it, not much, i'm just interjecting some reality into the discussion.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

jhlennon1 said:

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii®1=Total+Other&cons2=PS3®2=Total+Other&cons3=X360®3=Total+Other&weeks=156

I think the graph needs to be updated to match current data.

 

When you consider the Japan sales are struggling, the US sales are bad, is Europe saving the PS3 this Christmas?


Huh? That's a short sided observation. Let's modify your statement so your light bulb can come on:

 

When you consider the Japan sales are struggline, the Europe sales are bad, is America saving the XBox 360 this Christmas?

 See now? What, is Europe some kind of bonus country? Your analysis applies more to the 360 with America than any of the other consoles.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
Mountie said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sorair said:
Spectrumglr said:
jhlennon1 said:
Final Fantasy XIII will fix the Japan problem, so I am not too concerned about that.

short term...isn't it?


No there is no short term once FFXIII finishes releasing right after FFXIII, then you have Final Fantasy versus XIII and White Knight Story, The Last Renament, which is going to sell better on the PS3 than on the 360 in Japan.., 


 Yup it'll help the PS3 sell 1 or 2 million more consoles, Woo, so instead of being behind the GCN it'll be a little ahead, woo


Its pretty obvious from his writing that he doesn't think 2 consoles can co-exist in Japan.

I was a GC and PS2 owner, but obviously Avinash has some deep-seated hatred towards Sony for crushing his precious GamCube. I can't see any other reason for such ramblings and blatant fanboyism. This gen he thinks the same thing will happen but in reverse.

 Avinash, the PS3 will smash the 4 million or so GC's sold in Japan. That I can guarantee. I'd put it in my sig for your benefit, but I think I'd get made fun of for making such an easy prediction.


You'll notice my comment was intended to be sarcastic, PS3 may beat the GCN, but the fact is it won't climb much above it, maybe 5-6 million total, I was pointing out its current relative position to the GCN and how much these games will actually help it, not much, i'm just interjecting some reality into the discussion.


Of course your comment was sarcastic, haven't you heard that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit? You could have rationally come in to the topic and said "I don't think these games will give much of a boost, I see PS3 selling 5-6 million consoles in Japan." and civil discussion would follow. But instead you drop flamebait. Yes, the GC was a failure and clearly you think the PS3 will be as well.

I'll predict the PS3 will sell at least 8 million in Japan and have added it to my sig. That's a realistic prediction unlike all of yours (well except for 50% marketshare, that's possible).



Prediction:

The PS2 & PS3 will outsell the Wii in 2008.

Lifetime sales of PS3 in Japan will be at least 8 million consoles.

Mountie said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Mountie said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sorair said:
Spectrumglr said:
jhlennon1 said:
Final Fantasy XIII will fix the Japan problem, so I am not too concerned about that.

short term...isn't it?


No there is no short term once FFXIII finishes releasing right after FFXIII, then you have Final Fantasy versus XIII and White Knight Story, The Last Renament, which is going to sell better on the PS3 than on the 360 in Japan.., 


 Yup it'll help the PS3 sell 1 or 2 million more consoles, Woo, so instead of being behind the GCN it'll be a little ahead, woo


Its pretty obvious from his writing that he doesn't think 2 consoles can co-exist in Japan.

I was a GC and PS2 owner, but obviously Avinash has some deep-seated hatred towards Sony for crushing his precious GamCube. I can't see any other reason for such ramblings and blatant fanboyism. This gen he thinks the same thing will happen but in reverse.

 Avinash, the PS3 will smash the 4 million or so GC's sold in Japan. That I can guarantee. I'd put it in my sig for your benefit, but I think I'd get made fun of for making such an easy prediction.


You'll notice my comment was intended to be sarcastic, PS3 may beat the GCN, but the fact is it won't climb much above it, maybe 5-6 million total, I was pointing out its current relative position to the GCN and how much these games will actually help it, not much, i'm just interjecting some reality into the discussion.


Of course your comment was sarcastic, haven't you heard that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit? You could have rationally come in to the topic and said "I don't think these games will give much of a boost, I see PS3 selling 5-6 million consoles in Japan." and civil discussion would follow. But instead you drop flamebait. Yes, the GC was a failure and clearly you think the PS3 will be as well.

I'll predict the PS3 will sell at least 8 million in Japan and have added it to my sig. That's a realistic prediction unlike all of yours (well except for 50% marketshare, that's possible).


 If I had come in and pointed out why I think PS3 won't be a success and how it will be only marginally better than the GCN without sarcasm, and pointed out how its sales have been far weaker than the GCN you and others like you would have accused me of being a Wii fanboy, unable to take off his Wii glasses, since that would happen either way I chose to use sarcasm.

 

PS3 will not sell that much, maybe more than GCN but that's nothing to write home about, perhaps 6 million if they are lucky, eight millionis totally unrealistic, it can't even get over 100K in sales one week, also about my predictions all you have to do is look at how it is crushing the PS2 in sales, even with its supply constrained and that it has been availible in all three major markets , splitting its already low supply and you will see why it will easily pass the PS2 and PS1 and PS3 combined



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)