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darthdevidem01 on 18 February 2011
Carl2291 said:

GT5 is gonna drop below GT4 pretty soon...

Needs a pricecut and bundles

Well played carl, well played!



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XanderZane on 18 February 2011
Mummelmann said:
JGarret said:

About Malstrom, he is back...here are some parts from his new "the incredible 360" article:

Microsoft cannot be pleased at all about the 360′s performance of late. Anyone who thinks this performance is ‘good’ has not been paying attention to the massive amount Microsoft has spent…

Half a billion dollars just for marketing? And what did this get Microsoft?

Tepid sales.

NPD January 2010:

Xbox 360- 332,800

NPD January 2011:

Xbox 360- 381,000

OH MY GOODNESS! THAT IS A 48,000 UNIT INCREASE!

What co-option!

What a selling to the masses!

48,000 unit increase! Oh my!

What is not being mentioned is much of the sales is because the Xbox 360 is cannibalizing the PlayStation 3 sales. Just a year or two ago, the PlayStation 3, still after its remodel, was enjoying  a surge in sales and all the analysts could not stop getting so excited (from this fantastic site, I had to calm them down). What happened to the Year of the PS3? And Move is completely gone. Of course, in fairness to Sony, Move did not have a half billion dollar marketing budget. That marketing budget alone could be used to build, make, and launch a new console. That is the massive amount of money was spent.

 

ottom line is when the going gets tough, Microsoft only has one tactic to compete: use massive amounts of money to force a market outcome. We witnessed this during the first Xbox where Microsoft blew up billions of dollars and hailed itself as incredible geniuses for making a console that sold as well as the Gamecube. We witnessed this again with the company shoving a billion dollars or so to ‘hide’ the repairs for the bungled launch of the Xbox 360 (with failing hardware, production issues, etc.).

Now, with Kinect, Microosft can only try to force  a market outcome by pumping money into it (this time, half a billion dollars in marketing for a silly accessory). And, sure enough, it isn’t working. Anyone who thinks Kinect is ‘successful’ is not paying attention to the numbers especially the half billion dollars Microsoft unleashed.

Half billion dollars for this result? And even then, the Wii still outsold them during December! I’m telling you, folks, Microsoft cannot be pleased with how this turning out. The only solace they have is just how much worse Sony’s Move performed. I still expect six months from now that ‘Microsoft Mushrooms’, like the 32X mushrooms, will begin infesting used game stores.

 

Wow, this guy just hit a new low and that is saying something. There are too many points in there to adress now, I think I might revisit it after work tonight and show how silly it truly is (unless someone beats me to it).

I'm not even going to waste my time destroying his points. He clearing didn't read the fine print in Microsoft's memo that stated the 500 million marketing  for Kinect is over a 5yr period of time and not just for 2010/20111. Sigh... Microsoft is VERY, VERY please with the outcome of connect. I guess he also missed the memo where Microsoft was to sell 3 million Kinects by the end of the year, but bumped that prediction to 5 million. Kinect sold over 6.0 million in 2010 and is already over 8 million in 2011. Microsoft already has a lineup of about 9 exclusive Kinect games coming out of Japan and  probably another 10-15 that will be announced at the E3 from American companies. Microsoft is very please. The only one that doesn't seem to be please is Mummelmann who decided to post this long winded statement on how he feels about the XBox 360 and Kinect. If you don't like the system, that's fine, but don't post your opinion and try to make it appear that Microsoft isn't happy with their products and sales, because that's so far from the truth.



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Metallicube on 18 February 2011
Festus said:

Nov 27, 2010 to Dec 25, 2010 Wii sold approx. 2 208 100 units more than the 360. Week of Feb 12, 2011 360 sells 44 043 more units than Wii.  If the week of Feb 12, 2011 becomes a trend it will take the 360 approx. 50 weeks to make up the ground they lost to the Wii in the single month of 2010 holiday sales.

Exactly.. It's funny that some people are actually making a big deal out of this.. To put it in perspective how irrelivent this sales margin is, Wii currently has sold 34 million MORE units than its nearest competitor..

Assuming current trends continue, (being generous here) Xbox 360 MAY make up roughly 2 -3 million over the Wii by this time next year. That's over the course of an entire year! And Wii will still maintain a 31 million lead, with all consoles being a whole year older, and more gamers moving on..

And that's also assuming Wii will not make up most of the deficit during the holiday season, when they generally shine.



AussieGecko on 18 February 2011
Gojimaster said:


i don't think so.  Kinect sales are falling pretty fast as well.  Kinect sales have been falling 20-30K every week.  At this rate they will be below 100K in a couple weeks.  M$ said they wanted to treat Kinect as a 2nd console-- and they spend far more money marketing the Kinect launch than the 360 launch.  Kinect had an amazing start but it is selling pretty poorly compared to a console right now. 

I do agree though with the Kinect effect, when there is proper voice in europe it might start pushing pretty hard imo



 

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AussieGecko on 18 February 2011
Metallicube said:

What games are pushing Kinect and Move then?

Move is not exactly selling. It looks like it could become as obsolete as the Sixaxis in the near future..

Kinect is selling, yes. Though it remains to be seen how its legs will be, considering its weak game library. I can already buy one used on amazon for $110. I have a feeling that by this time next year, I could find one in the bargain bin for $50.

I cant speak for the move as I dont have one but you are talking about used units for US prices i am assuming 110, compared to new for 150... why do you do this consistently. 

Kinect has already been announced in several ms threads that there will be much much support coming for it dont be a pain.



 

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MARCUSDJACKSON on 18 February 2011

it was bound to happen sometime. atlease its still selling, so it could be worse.

over all good though.



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pacman91 on 18 February 2011

Captain Olimar will come to the rescue, you'll all see...



Mummelmann on 18 February 2011
XanderZane said:
Mummelmann said:
JGarret said:

About Malstrom, he is back...here are some parts from his new "the incredible 360" article:

Microsoft cannot be pleased at all about the 360′s performance of late. Anyone who thinks this performance is ‘good’ has not been paying attention to the massive amount Microsoft has spent…

Half a billion dollars just for marketing? And what did this get Microsoft?

Tepid sales.

NPD January 2010:

Xbox 360- 332,800

NPD January 2011:

Xbox 360- 381,000

OH MY GOODNESS! THAT IS A 48,000 UNIT INCREASE!

What co-option!

What a selling to the masses!

48,000 unit increase! Oh my!

What is not being mentioned is much of the sales is because the Xbox 360 is cannibalizing the PlayStation 3 sales. Just a year or two ago, the PlayStation 3, still after its remodel, was enjoying  a surge in sales and all the analysts could not stop getting so excited (from this fantastic site, I had to calm them down). What happened to the Year of the PS3? And Move is completely gone. Of course, in fairness to Sony, Move did not have a half billion dollar marketing budget. That marketing budget alone could be used to build, make, and launch a new console. That is the massive amount of money was spent.

 

ottom line is when the going gets tough, Microsoft only has one tactic to compete: use massive amounts of money to force a market outcome. We witnessed this during the first Xbox where Microsoft blew up billions of dollars and hailed itself as incredible geniuses for making a console that sold as well as the Gamecube. We witnessed this again with the company shoving a billion dollars or so to ‘hide’ the repairs for the bungled launch of the Xbox 360 (with failing hardware, production issues, etc.).

Now, with Kinect, Microosft can only try to force  a market outcome by pumping money into it (this time, half a billion dollars in marketing for a silly accessory). And, sure enough, it isn’t working. Anyone who thinks Kinect is ‘successful’ is not paying attention to the numbers especially the half billion dollars Microsoft unleashed.

Half billion dollars for this result? And even then, the Wii still outsold them during December! I’m telling you, folks, Microsoft cannot be pleased with how this turning out. The only solace they have is just how much worse Sony’s Move performed. I still expect six months from now that ‘Microsoft Mushrooms’, like the 32X mushrooms, will begin infesting used game stores.

 

Wow, this guy just hit a new low and that is saying something. There are too many points in there to adress now, I think I might revisit it after work tonight and show how silly it truly is (unless someone beats me to it).

I'm not even going to waste my time destroying his points. He clearing didn't read the fine print in Microsoft's memo that stated the 500 million marketing  for Kinect is over a 5yr period of time and not just for 2010/20111. Sigh... Microsoft is VERY, VERY please with the outcome of connect. I guess he also missed the memo where Microsoft was to sell 3 million Kinects by the end of the year, but bumped that prediction to 5 million. Kinect sold over 6.0 million in 2010 and is already over 8 million in 2011. Microsoft already has a lineup of about 9 exclusive Kinect games coming out of Japan and  probably another 10-15 that will be announced at the E3 from American companies. Microsoft is very please. The only one that doesn't seem to be please is Mummelmann who decided to post this long winded statement on how he feels about the XBox 360 and Kinect. If you don't like the system, that's fine, but don't post your opinion and try to make it appear that Microsoft isn't happy with their products and sales, because that's so far from the truth.

Uhm, I think you grossly misunderstood me here. I'm disagreeing with Malstrom and his infantile image of the industry (yet again) and desperate attempts at attacking MS and Sony and defending Nintendo. Where in my post does it say that I am not pleased about 360 and Kinect numbers? It states the opposite, allthough I predicted Kinect and Move to crash hard I find it incredibly funny to see Malstrom flop about like a fish out of sea trying to defend his points and reasoing at the cost of self respect and the respect of the intellect of anyone who reads him.



darthdevidem01 on 18 February 2011
Mummelmann said:
XanderZane said:
Mummelmann said:
JGarret said:

About Malstrom, he is back...here are some parts from his new "the incredible 360" article:

Microsoft cannot be pleased at all about the 360′s performance of late. Anyone who thinks this performance is ‘good’ has not been paying attention to the massive amount Microsoft has spent…

Half a billion dollars just for marketing? And what did this get Microsoft?

Tepid sales.

NPD January 2010:

Xbox 360- 332,800

NPD January 2011:

Xbox 360- 381,000

OH MY GOODNESS! THAT IS A 48,000 UNIT INCREASE!

What co-option!

What a selling to the masses!

48,000 unit increase! Oh my!

What is not being mentioned is much of the sales is because the Xbox 360 is cannibalizing the PlayStation 3 sales. Just a year or two ago, the PlayStation 3, still after its remodel, was enjoying  a surge in sales and all the analysts could not stop getting so excited (from this fantastic site, I had to calm them down). What happened to the Year of the PS3? And Move is completely gone. Of course, in fairness to Sony, Move did not have a half billion dollar marketing budget. That marketing budget alone could be used to build, make, and launch a new console. That is the massive amount of money was spent.

 

ottom line is when the going gets tough, Microsoft only has one tactic to compete: use massive amounts of money to force a market outcome. We witnessed this during the first Xbox where Microsoft blew up billions of dollars and hailed itself as incredible geniuses for making a console that sold as well as the Gamecube. We witnessed this again with the company shoving a billion dollars or so to ‘hide’ the repairs for the bungled launch of the Xbox 360 (with failing hardware, production issues, etc.).

Now, with Kinect, Microosft can only try to force  a market outcome by pumping money into it (this time, half a billion dollars in marketing for a silly accessory). And, sure enough, it isn’t working. Anyone who thinks Kinect is ‘successful’ is not paying attention to the numbers especially the half billion dollars Microsoft unleashed.

Half billion dollars for this result? And even then, the Wii still outsold them during December! I’m telling you, folks, Microsoft cannot be pleased with how this turning out. The only solace they have is just how much worse Sony’s Move performed. I still expect six months from now that ‘Microsoft Mushrooms’, like the 32X mushrooms, will begin infesting used game stores.

 

 

Wow, this guy just hit a new low and that is saying something. There are too many points in there to adress now, I think I might revisit it after work tonight and show how silly it truly is (unless someone beats me to it).

I'm not even going to waste my time destroying his points. He clearing didn't read the fine print in Microsoft's memo that stated the 500 million marketing  for Kinect is over a 5yr period of time and not just for 2010/20111. Sigh... Microsoft is VERY, VERY please with the outcome of connect. I guess he also missed the memo where Microsoft was to sell 3 million Kinects by the end of the year, but bumped that prediction to 5 million. Kinect sold over 6.0 million in 2010 and is already over 8 million in 2011. Microsoft already has a lineup of about 9 exclusive Kinect games coming out of Japan and  probably another 10-15 that will be announced at the E3 from American companies. Microsoft is very please. The only one that doesn't seem to be please is Mummelmann who decided to post this long winded statement on how he feels about the XBox 360 and Kinect. If you don't like the system, that's fine, but don't post your opinion and try to make it appear that Microsoft isn't happy with their products and sales, because that's so far from the truth.

Uhm, I think you grossly misunderstood me here. I'm disagreeing with Malstrom and his infantile image of the industry (yet again) and desperate attempts at attacking MS and Sony and defending Nintendo. Where in my post does it say that I am not pleased about 360 and Kinect numbers? It states the opposite, allthough I predicted Kinect and Move to crash hard I find it incredibly funny to see Malstrom flop about like a fish out of sea trying to defend his points and reasoing at the cost of self respect and the respect of the intellect of anyone who reads him.

He obviously typo'd in mummelmann instead of malstorm (he starts his post virtually agreeing with your opinion and he says "long winded" in the line you bolded...that malstorm article is long winded your post he was quoting wasn't).

LOL @ both of you!



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NYANKS on 18 February 2011
pezus said:
*Sound Of Rain said:

360 #1...Yes! I am just happy that nobody can use that statistical tie crap LOL(I don't care about PSP &DS.)

Overall, the 360 does deserve it...I don't own one but Microsoft has done an amazing job with Kinect making it the next big thing. I have played it and it is fun...I just think they should upgrade it a little bit. If it could read fingers and other things...well, it could be even bigger.

PS3 is doing good though 360 put a gap in between them this week. Japan #'s impress me.

Wii is doing fine IMO considering it is now facing Move and Kinect and has had nothing big since New Super Mario Bros. Wii and nothing new since Motion Plus. Wii should be able to hold its own until Nintendo acts with a Price Cut or the Vitality Sensor.

Technically, that phrase can still be used.

I'm pretty sure this is the most important point in the thread.  I call STATISTICAL TIE! *runs out of thread*