Ail said:
Kasz216 said:
ils411 said:
Kasz216 said:
Piracy killing the PC? People who actually know something about PC gaming say hello. PC gaming is by far the healthiest gaming platform around. While tons of cosnole studios are going out of buisenss... all of the PC guys are doing great. The difference is really, PC represents a stable and better infrastructure and buisness practice.
As for the PSP... ever think that instead of artificially decreasing PSP software sales, piracy actually artificially INCREASED PSP sales because a lot of people who would of never bought PSP games bought PSPS.
1. I mean, I know tons of people with PSPs who don't even play PSP games on the system. They hack em and use em as portable SNES/Sega Gensesis consoles.
2. Which, unless those PSPs were sold at a loss... again is helping the industry. Some people who pirate 100% are hurting the industry sure, but that's a very small amount in comparison to most pirates who seem to be of the "I pirate some stuff and buy other" variety... and even then of the 100% pirate... most of them appear to be of the "couldn't afford it anyway" group. In which case, nothing is being hurt really, and if anything it's maintaining that interest until they one day do have money.
3. It's why Microsoft's buisness policy with their PC software is "Don't pirate, but if you do, pirate us!" If you pirate MLB the Show for 3-4 years, when you get out of college and get a job, chances are you are going to buy a PS3 and also.... MLB the Show.
4. There are very very few "willing pirates." That is people who just want stuff for free no matter what. To people who are like that, well yeah, fuck em. However, that's not really the vast majority of pirates, nor likely even the vast majority of people in this thread or anywhere.
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1. and i know tons of people who cant afford to buy psp games but bought psps anyways coz they hacked their psps to hell and download all the games they want, pirate style
2. very true, as i said, i know a ton of people who bought psps and just priated the game. if the psps were not hacked to hell, none of them would have bought psps so, yeah no lost software sales. on the positive side, they made sony some money by buying the hardware.
3. maybe, mabye not. thee are a lot of bastards out there who, even though they can afford it, wont spend a dime on things that they can get free even if it means priateing shit. like, instead of going to the movies, they'd just go out and buy a bootleg dvd copy of the movie for 1/10 the price of a movie ticket. their reasoning? why pay for anything full price when i can get it dirt cheap or beter yet, for free. the good thing this, this "ton of peope" is nothing compared to the volume of people who do not pirate.
4. there are many actually when just looking at the numbers. but when compared to the entire population of decent people, they barely matter.
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1. Agreed
2. Agreed.
3. Not statistically there aren't a lot. The people you are talking about are statistically irrelvent even among pirates. If you removed the option of piracy from the equation most people who pirated wouldn't buy the games still. Some would, but ALSO some who bought the games due to them pirating wouldn't. The majority of studies show that these two groups actually offset. In a "piracy free" world, developers would not make any more money according to most government studies, and in some would actually make less.
4. There aren't many when looking at the numbers though... compared to pirates in general. Not just "decent people".
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Not sure I understand your third point.
One one hand you say people that pirate wouldn't buy the game then you say that due to pirating some people purchase the game so what exactly are you trying to imply ?
Those guys pirating think the game is shit so they wouldn't buy it anyway but somehow they tell their law abiding friends to purchase it because it kicks butt ? Can't have it both way ?
Or are you implying that after pirating games for a while people end up buying the later iteration of those games franchises ? ( seriously how many people are going to get something for free every year and suddenly out of the blue start paying for it ? They get a bad conscience suddenly ?)
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Most people actually. Learn something about the economy and purshasing behavior. Most people by definition WANT to pay a fair price for a product, almost nobody actually wants shit for free unless specifically deemed free by a company.
It's basic economic fact. Not only will they by later iterations of the product, but the current iteration they have pirated. When they have the economic basis to or when they believe the price matches the value offered.
I mean hell, note that Pirated Windows 7.... gets updates!
Why would they do that?
Notice the Microsoft stance.
"But Raikes, speaking last week at the Morgan Stanley Technology conference in San Francisco, said a certain amount of software piracy actually helps Microsoft because it can lead to purchases by individuals who otherwise might never have been exposed to the company's products.
"We understand that in the long run the fundamental asset is the installed base of people who are using our products," Raikes said. "What you hope to do over time is convert them to licensing the software.""
http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=198000211
Having people using your products and playing your games is always a benefit, because people get used to and enjoy YOUR type of games/software/writingstye.
