We go again back to portability. You make a game for Wii, you're making a game for Wii. You make a game for PS3, you can pop it on 360 quickly. You don't necessarily have to, but at least you have that option.

You make a game for Wii you can port it to PSP/PS2 you don't have to but you can.

PS3 is selling pretty damn well for a $600 system with no games. Whether it should have been a $600 system in the first place is debateable, but they're at a point of no return for that.

I think stof had the best comment on this agrument: To say that a system sells good for a 600 USD system is to say that ti doesn't sell well. Or at least something like that. PS3 isn't selling well, is it because of the price, yes, does it matter no!

Nintendo may take a brief lead on the basis of its early fanbase/pricing advantage, but as the other systems get lower prices and more games, that won't be maintainable. Sony can see significant improvement by just lopping $100 off the system's price every year. Nintendo really can't boost demand in that same fashion.

And wii will get more games and a lower price tag. Now if PS3 gets a 100 USD lower price each year they will reach 300 USD in 2009. If you don't think Wii can be as low as 150 USD then and still sell a lot I wounder in wich fantasy world you live in. There is also one big different for the moment, if nintendo succed with their goal in bringing new people into gaming they don't need to fight a price war against Sony or xbox360. More important as it seems now, Nintendo doesn't need to boost their demand. PS3 needs it.

Has Nintendo expanded the portable market in Japan? No (perhaps there are new buying segments, but they've got a long ways to go to catch the original GB). Will they? Probably.

Nintendo DS has sold to new gamers, point end of story. Again Nintendodogs in Europe is bought by mostly femals. Brain Training by elder people WW.

Why would Konami spend $20 million creating a game, then just drop it? No way in hell this project is getting cancelled. Worst case scenario: it gets ported to 360.

Don't now what you are talking about here but I think that I never have stated that a company would cancel a 20 million dollar game. If I have missed a game that is arriving before end of august please let me know.

I was expecting more out of Sega from both Sonic and VF5. This is a company that's slowly slipping off the map and needs to find a way back. I don't think Nights is that way. The JSRF/GT pack-in was exceptional with 2 million people picking up games they otherwise weren't bothering with, but they failed to capitalize on it.

Nice to hear but I still think that 90% of the old Sega fans (that still belives) will buy a Wii to buy VC games and Nights.

Evolution's pretty unestablished in the US, so Motorstorm is pretty much entirely dependent upon marketing. The first thing Sony's really got that may drive sales is Lair, but anyone expecting monthly sales above 200k before fall is kidding themselves.

Yes and that is the problem, nothing will get the PS3 above 200k meanwhile both Wii and Xbox360 is selling more. How big lead do you think xbox360 can have when PS3 finally start selling above 200k. Remeber it is not only PS3 that has to sell well, it has to sell a lot more than xbox360 so that it can pass the 5 million lead it has in USA.

What the ease of porting does is give developers a way to offset development costs. It does mean there is potential for both 360 and PS3 to have similar libraries, but it also means there is potential for both to get most games.

Yes but what would you as a pure gamer buy? A consol for 400 USD or one for 600 USD? Remember we are not discusing if PS3 will have games or not we are discussion the lifespann of Wii and that only PS3 can reach 100 millions.

GBA only had about a 3 year lifespan in Japan. I rolled my eyes at the "three-pronged" strategy because I knew the market would not adopt two portables from the same company, and apparently the entire nation of Japan did the same.

So? The statment was to make it possible to gain time against PSP.

For Wii, the big question is how long demand will continue to go like this. PS3 will definitely see a boost, though it won't be any time soon.

Well Wii Sport has been in the top ten since launch, which is the main driving point. Brain Training 2 which started the fast sells in Japan is still strugling along and have sold insane numbers. If Wii Sport can make a BT2 I would say that we could find that the demand will last a couple of years. Wii will also get new games will be released.

PS3 will probarbly get a boost with both FF and MGS, if that will affact Wii sales at all I don't know. Looking at the DS vs PSP when MHP2 arrived the PSP got a boost but that didn't stop DS sales. If Nintendo is really succefull the first year we might find that whatever PS3 does in Japan they will stay in the lead because of Wii Sport or similar games.

Again the important thing here from my point of view is not that PS3 might not sell or will lose, that is not what I am argumenting for. I am saying that it isn't safe to say that the market will chose Sony because their two first consols sold really well. I am also saying that Nintendo can reach insane levels of succes, if they succed with their goal: Bringing new people into the gaiming arena. I am also stating that Wii most probarbly will win Japan this time.

*Buzzer sound* Wrong! If you go on MySims's website, it sais DS not PSP. http://mysims.ea.com/ Go check it for yourself. "MySims is an all-new game designed exclusively for play on Wii™ and Nintendo DS™ systems."

The lifespan of the Wii will be long (4/5 years) and fruitfull (70m units) for Ninty. Wii ver 2.0 will be even better when that comes out in 2010. ;) Faster,stronger and funner.

top 20 software for march

PS2 - 1,7,9,10,11,15,18   = 7 games

360 - #2,3,6,8,13,17       = 6 games

Wii - #4,12,14,16,19        = 5 games

PS3 - 5,20                        = 2 games

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/782/782103p1.html

Nintendo may take a brief lead on the basis of its early fanbase/pricing advantage, but as the other systems get lower prices and more games, that won't be maintainable. Sony can see significant improvement by just lopping $100 off the system's price every year. Nintendo really can't boost demand in that same fashion.

Oh, of course they can. Going from $250 to $200 to $170 might impact demand as much as going from $600 to $500 to $400. They're both 1/3 drops. Except those Wii drops would be entrenching it deeper into the mainstream, not just trying to get TO the mainstream. Wii is the only console with any chance of getting to the $100 price or below--EVER. Sales will be redonkulous at that point. Sony probably only has 3 $100 price cuts possible, and they almost certainly won't get below $200 in the next 5 years.

Has Nintendo expanded the portable market in Japan? No (perhaps there are new buying segments, but they've got a long ways to go to catch the original GB). Will they? Probably.

GBA only had about a 3 year lifespan in Japan. I rolled my eyes at the "three-pronged" strategy because I knew the market would not adopt two portables from the same company, and apparently the entire nation of Japan did the same.

GBA had 3 years and 9 months before DS launched. 193 weeks. It sold 14.5 million in that period. DS has sold 16.3 million in 124 weeks. GB/GBC hit 30 million in week 612, almost 12 years in, just before the GBA launched. All numbers from VGC.

I agree that the "three pillar" thing was one of the weirdest PR explanations ever. Two handhelds from one company was obviously not going to work.

Why would Konami spend $20 million creating a game, then just drop it? No way in hell this project is getting cancelled. Worst case scenario: it gets ported to 360.

Well... Konami can't very well launch a game they want to sell 5 million copies on a system with an install base of 7 or 8 million... And loss of exclusivity is a big deal when you've got the highest priced console.

For Wii, the big question is how long demand will continue to go like this. PS3 will definitely see a boost, though it won't be any time soon.

There's little reason to think Wii demand will get smaller. Even "fad" products can last a couple years, which is enough time to establish permanent momentum.

And back before Feb NPD numbers came out, people were saying below 200K a month in NA would be a disaster... Now above 150K would be surprising. PS3 better get a "boost" before said boost merely gets them back up to Jan levels of demand.

Likely the PS3 will cost under 250$ in 6 years. 

Dont ask me why. I'm just saying this because the production cost will be near around 150-200$ in 6 years for the PS3. That is the likely number at least. Could possibly be quite a bit less.

If that happens will PS3 be their main consol? I doubt that microsoft will have xbox360 out for 7 years without releasing a new system, that may force sony to deliver something new.

The PS3 will hit $250 in 6 years? Wow, maybe it might be worth it for some of us by then. :)

PSP and PS2 will both remain viable platforms for a while, but nothing like PS3 and 360 (PS2's better for the time being, but it will fade).

While the difference between $300 and $600 is huge, the difference between $250 and $150 is not so much.

The original Gameboy sold 33 million units in Japan. There was more to that than what we would consider stereotypical market segments.

Sega doesn't have too many believers left, regardless of the franchise. They have some very nice brands but need to find a publisher capable of leveraging those brands.

PS3 is fighting an uphill battle (moreso in the US than in Europe and Japan), but it's hardly impossible. They sold in excess of 40 million units here the past two times.

I personally think the price of both the PS3 and 360 need to come down, though I do view the PS3 as the better value and the more appealing library.

Sony still has the support they gained during the first two consoles. We're seeing this in terms of both developers and current PS2 sales.

When GTA3 launched, it had a userbase of 4 million to work with. It went on to sell 6 million copies.

If Wii demand grows, what will it grow to? 1.5 million a month? 2 million? 8 million? Maybe they can sell 100 million systems this year. Or maybe even by the end of the summer. Maybe by tomorrow even.

It really depends on the system ... With a home console a $100 difference is probably not going to phase too many consumers (as has been demonstrated with the Dreamcast vs. PS2 and Gamecube vs. XBox/PS2); with a portable I think it is a much larger factor.

With the PS3 I anticipate that it will take 3 price cuts for the PS3 to hit $300 which means that it will be $99-$129 Wii VS. $149-$199 XBox 360 vs. $299 PS3; a $150 price difference will have an impact on its sales later in its life.

We don't know about Europe, but in Japan the PS3 has been outsold 3 to 1 by the Wii and is being outsold 4 to 1 by the Wii on a weekly basis; on top of that the PS3 is only outselling consoles which have failed in Japan (Dreamcast, XBox, and XBox 360). If this isn't their worst market that says a lot ...