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Galaki said:
Euphoria14 said:

3DS still utlizes the resistive touchscreen which requires a stylus while the NGP goes with capacitive touchscreen which works with a simple touch of a finger.

I honestly think that needing a stylus is a con in this day and age. Not easy to swap from face buttons to touchscreen on the fly when not using capacitive.


I've always been able to use the stylus and fingers for my DSL, (DSi), and DSiXL.

On the other hand, the non stylus touch screens are completely incompatable and you have to use your fingers.

I only use stylus for accuracy and usually use my fingers while playing with DSiXL touch screen, currently.


I could never get my fingers to work with my DSL screen.

Could be my fat Megan Fox style thumb?



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Euphoria14 said:


I could never get my fingers to work with my DSL screen.

Could be my fat Megan Fox style thumb?


*shrugs* It works for all my 10 fingers.



Rainbird said:
Zyphe said:

nobody notices it, but i think the secret weapon of the 3DS would be the 3D cameras-- who wouldn't buy into making 3D pictures and videos on a portable? Once mummies and kiddies get one, thats going to be the final nail in the coffin for old sony and NGP. Remember, casual and non-gamers>>hardcore gamers.

I think you're overestimating the impact of the 3D camera. Sure it will be nice, but it's not something that casual gamers will flock to in droves. The 3DS is likely to be the only place where they can view it anyway, so it won't be very practical either.

Nope, it uses the mopst popular format for 3D photos, so probably will display on any device that display 3D content.



PSaiki said:
Rainbird said:
Zyphe said:

nobody notices it, but i think the secret weapon of the 3DS would be the 3D cameras-- who wouldn't buy into making 3D pictures and videos on a portable? Once mummies and kiddies get one, thats going to be the final nail in the coffin for old sony and NGP. Remember, casual and non-gamers>>hardcore gamers.

I think you're overestimating the impact of the 3D camera. Sure it will be nice, but it's not something that casual gamers will flock to in droves. The 3DS is likely to be the only place where they can view it anyway, so it won't be very practical either.

Nope, it uses the mopst popular format for 3D photos, so probably will display on any device that display 3D content.

Exactly. Not a lot. There hasn't been a huge uptake of 3D screens, and even if you have one, you probably don't have enough glasses to show pictures to all of your family. By far the majority will have nowhere else to show these pictures than on their 3DS, which means it will end up being pretty limited as camera.



The same way that one can use other apple products to communicate with each other (ipad controlling apple t.v., etc...), is the same way that Nintendo should start doing that with their products.  What would be cool is if the 3DS has a hidden feature in it to act as a remote control for the next Nintendo home console.  Although perhaps that would drive down the sales of home console remotes...  Either way, I could see Nintendo doing something like that.  I mean, the original Wii Remote was going to have touch based controls had the DS failed in general - That was in one of the Iwata Asks Sessions fo Wii.

I mean, Microsoft, Apple, and Sony all have the advantage of integrating all their peripherals to work with one another.  And that's mainly because they aren't one dimensional companies like Nintendo (just gaming).  They have a wider span of multi-functional products and so it makes sense for them to make each one of their product multipurpose devices so that they can all cross over with each other.  Nintendo doesn't have that element, but they could perhaps offer consumers some sort of added bonus for having both a portable and home console system.



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Khuutra said:
Killiana1a said:

Don't be fooled by the 3D effect of the 3DS, the graphics ain't a vast upgrade over Nintendo 64 graphics. Sure a bit more lighting here, a tad more shadows there, a few more pixels, and rounded edges is basically what the 3DS has done to update Ocarina of Time. Not impressive once you get past the "ooh its 3D" group rubber necking bunk.

Now the NGP, that thing can pump out some graphics. Then again, graphics alone never sold a system, yet pricing a system to cover the hardware that enables those graphics can break a system.

So is Ocarina of Time the only 3DS game you've seen? Have you looked at either of the Resident Evil titles, which are at or above the fidelity of Gamecube games?

Just checked out a couple of Resident Evil 3DS gameplay vids. Pretty nice. Could have easily been done on the PSP.

I don't mean to be demeaning towards Nintendo but saying the graphics for the 3DS are at Gamecube levels is like saying graphics for a good NES game are great for "so and so console company" during the PS1/N64 era.

Point being, the graphics for the Gamecube cut it, but no one was raving about Metroid Prime's graphics in comparison to Shadow of the Colossus or God of War.

Graphics aren't and never will be Nintendo's bread and butter. Likewise the 3D gimmick is not fooling anybody. When both the NGP and 3DS are released, the NGP will boast the best graphics and greatest graphics capabilities bar none.



Killiana1a said:
Khuutra said:

So is Ocarina of Time the only 3DS game you've seen? Have you looked at either of the Resident Evil titles, which are at or above the fidelity of Gamecube games?

Just checked out a couple of Resident Evil 3DS gameplay vids. Pretty nice. Could have easily been done on the PSP.

I don't mean to be demeaning towards Nintendo but saying the graphics for the 3DS are at Gamecube levels is like saying graphics for a good NES game are great for "so and so console company" during the PS1/N64 era.

Point being, the graphics for the Gamecube cut it, but no one was raving about Metroid Prime's graphics in comparison to Shadow of the Colossus or God of War.

Graphics aren't and never will be Nintendo's bread and butter. Likewise the 3D gimmick is not fooling anybody. When both the NGP and 3DS are released, the NGP will boast the best graphics and greatest graphics capabilities bar none.

Did I just read an implication that the gamecube didn't stack up to the PS2, and that after an open declaration that Mercenaries could have been done on the PSP? All of this avoiding the point that you said the 3DS was barely an upgrade compared to the N64?

Yeah, I'm done here



Khuutra said:
Killiana1a said:
Khuutra said:

So is Ocarina of Time the only 3DS game you've seen? Have you looked at either of the Resident Evil titles, which are at or above the fidelity of Gamecube games?

Just checked out a couple of Resident Evil 3DS gameplay vids. Pretty nice. Could have easily been done on the PSP.

I don't mean to be demeaning towards Nintendo but saying the graphics for the 3DS are at Gamecube levels is like saying graphics for a good NES game are great for "so and so console company" during the PS1/N64 era.

Point being, the graphics for the Gamecube cut it, but no one was raving about Metroid Prime's graphics in comparison to Shadow of the Colossus or God of War.

Graphics aren't and never will be Nintendo's bread and butter. Likewise the 3D gimmick is not fooling anybody. When both the NGP and 3DS are released, the NGP will boast the best graphics and greatest graphics capabilities bar none.

Did I just read an implication that the gamecube didn't stack up to the PS2, and that after an open declaration that Mercenaries could have been done on the PSP? All of this avoiding the point that you said the 3DS was barely an upgrade compared to the N64?

Yeah, I'm done here

Yes, the 3DS is an upgrade from N64 graphics. If you want to pick straws and say the 3DS is at or above Gamecube graphics levels, then I will come down off my mountain and meet you half-way.

Khuutra, I agree the 3DS has just as good if not better graphics than the Gamecube. However, the NGP still has better graphics from what I have seen at this point...

As for me mentioning Metroid Prime and PS2 vs. GC graphics, did I mention I can bake something fierce?

In all seriousness, I opened up a sore wound I should not have. I know from your Metroid: Other M posts that Metroid Prime is a series dear to your heart. Well, I can't take back what is quoted, but I will say Nintendo can pump out some competitive graphics.

Nintendo cannot have it all though, they may win generations but not everything. Sony is the graphics king, but look at how well graphics processing capability did for the PS3...Dead last.