1. That's like asking would I rather do Sofia Vergera or Carmen Electra. I say this cuz it won't be the 'same' game. I will play it on both! Different experiences.

2. I will buy the ps3 for the games only playable on it, so far the exclusives have not disappointed me

3. 110? :S wait wha? Are you adding the price of two games? If the game is different I will buy both. If it's the same depends on the game. I played Tekken DR more than Tekken 5 and 6 combined for example.

There you go, my answer. It's not fighting against the ps3, they are making it so it will 'compliment' the home console as well. I think this problem is only in your head at the moment. We saw NEW games of IPs like KZ, UC and R WITH new IP like Gravity Daze, Broken etc. If you're a fan of KZ for example, you will play both versions cuz they are different games.  I played ALL GOW games and loved them all!

PSP has MANY amazing casual friendly games too, they haven't sold on the same level of some games you mentioned. So what's the issue there?

that's their problem

but you bought a console game on the DS

i've seen lots of talk and exitement saying how you can save your game and using psn load your saved game and just satrt playing it on the go.  so essentially having uncharte 3 on ngp and uncharted 3 on ps3.

now if they are totally different games, then thats different, but was referring to them being exact same.  Which i doubt sony woudl do, but i can see a lot of developers doing.  The same with Wii/3DS being same roughly graphically, with NPG and 360/ps3 being roughly same, i imagine basically direct ports, even if released same time.

so comes down to the consumer going.  Hmm do i want to buy the new call of duty for my ps3, 360 or my ngp.  they will not buy it for all 3.  that is my point.  by having a handheld the same as the consoles it puts itself in competition with itself.  I'm sure sony will try to make a differnet game for each.  but fact is based on past its handheld is basically spinoffs of its mains on the console.  Nintendo has different offering all together.  Nintendo has spinoffs on wii of handheld games, and vise versa.  sony has only spinoff in one direction, from console to handheld.  

Your scenario is odd, because the vast majority of titles on the PSP are designed for the PSP. Chains of Olympus isn't God of War 2, it's God of War: Chains of Olympus. MGS: Peace Walkker isn't MGS4. Daxter isn't Jak 3. I could go on, but the point is that every 3DS warrior is under the weird assumption that every PSP game was a direct port of a PS2 game and that the same thing will apply to the NGP. Which, judging by the lineup, seems to be something that the 3DS is guilty of and no ones willing to counter that argument. 

The reason why the PSP failed was a consistent combiantion of piracy and bad controls. The audience that purchases PSP's are the same people that would have the knowledge of how to hack their system. The same can't be said for the audience of the DS, which I'll admit has a piracy problem, but the majority of that audience consists of casual users and are far less likely to know how to download Roms or how to purchase an R4 chip over a fan of Jeanne d'Arc who could probably sof mod their PSP with a teaspoon.

The NGP seems to be fixing the majority of problems the PSP had. It's offering games for the gamer, games for the casual gamer, new experiences, a great interface and much cheaper games. I don't think it's going to conquer the world, but it's going to do well and it should be able to resell itself to the current PSP userbase (hopefully with a better security system).

not sure where you got the idea from, BUT all the UC, KZ and R games announced are NEW games. The talk of playing games at home and taking it on the go when you go out might be what you are referring to. To some, that will be a very good thing, like me who have stay out a lot. But it's all speculation at this point. Facts are all games announced are NEW games.

There is a big market of consumers who travel a lot, for them a COD on the go will be an awesome thing.Spin offs are good, they are NEW games, not direct ports. Good example, Dexter! One of the best games/spin offs of all time imho. They are different.

If you look at the 3ds line up, aren't most games 'direct' ports of console games? SF, Zelda, Cave Story etc? As of now, the problem of ports are with 3ds from what we know now.

This.  SO MUCH THIS.

psrock said: The PSP is one of the best selling console of all times, it had no issues selling, it was its control, not the games that slowed it down. Read every review, read every owners, the thing that has always hurt the PSP is its control. The 3DS is getting tons of console games yet I never hear this issue. The game you guys want on the 3DS, MH is a much better game on the console, yet I don't see you guys not wanting it.  NGP will be able to play both casual and core games. I believe it will bring a new experiece even the console can't bring. The PSP did not have that advantage. Game Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide 1 Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (PSP) Rockstar Games 2.98 0.12 3.27 6.37 2 Monster Hunter Freedom Unite(PSP) Capcom 0.45 4.12 0.42 5.00 3 Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (PSP) Unknown 0.00 4.08 0.00 4.08 4 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories (PSP) Rockstar Games 1.74 0.05 2.11 3.90 5 Daxter (PSP) Sony Computer Entertainment 2.43 0.00 1.15 3.59 6 Ratchet & Clank: Size Matters(PSP) Sony Computer Entertainment 1.58 0.10 1.50 3.18 7 God of War: Chains of Olympus(PSP) Sony Computer Entertainment 1.61 0.04 1.08 2.73 8 Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII(PSP) Square Enix 1.30 0.80 0.60 2.70 9 Monster Hunter Freedom 2 (PSP) Capcom 0.39 1.75 0.28 2.42 10 Need for Speed: Most Wanted 5-1-0 (PSP) Electronic Arts 1.62 0.02 0.72 2.36 Yep, Those are the top selling PSP games.

Well, using Chains of Olympus as an example, I'd say there's a reason that the highest rated PSP game, released on a system with a much higher userbase than the PS3 had last year, and bundled for months in NA, was soundly trounced in sales by God of War III.  Ghost of Sparta did far, far worse.

You can blame gimped controls all you want, but the PSP God of War games were also far shorter and uglier than their console counterparts, and they were made by a third party instead of the original developers.  Anybody in their right mind would prefer to play the actual trilogy, even if the PSP had dual analog controls.

And controls wouldn't have been an issue at all if developers hadn't focused on making console clones.  Guerrilla Games did things right with Killzone: Liberation, though the game had its problems in other areas.  If only more of Sony's internal studios had taken the platform seriously.

However, I think NGP will do much better in this regard.  Just looking at Uncharted, it makes heavy use of touch controls for things like maps and whatnot, helping to differentiate itself from its console brethren instead of simply being an inferior clone.  Though most of the additions we've seen so far are gimmicky and superficial at best.

makingmusic476 said: irstupid said: just a quick thinking process for you Imagine you are asked to play a game.  Lets take Pinball, and Uncharted.  Both state of the art, best graphics, controls, AI, physics, sound, ect you name it.   Which system would you want to play either on?  the NGP or the PS3?   identical games, no difference in the NGP or PS3 versions.   I would choose to play uncharted on the PS3 and Pinball on the NGP.   Imagine that for any other game you can think of.  If you can't decide, then its one that is a perfect game for both, such as new super mario bros.  if your leaning towards one way over the other then thats teh type of game it is meant to be.  And thus why the reason I believe PSP failed software wise.  Too many games where you would think "i want that on my ps3" This.  SO MUCH THIS. psrock said: The PSP is one of the best selling console of all times, it had no issues selling, it was its control, not the games that slowed it down. Read every review, read every owners, the thing that has always hurt the PSP is its control. The 3DS is getting tons of console games yet I never hear this issue. The game you guys want on the 3DS, MH is a much better game on the console, yet I don't see you guys not wanting it.  NGP will be able to play both casual and core games. I believe it will bring a new experiece even the console can't bring. The PSP did not have that advantage. Game Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide 1 Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (PSP) Rockstar Games 2.98 0.12 3.27 6.37 2 Monster Hunter Freedom Unite(PSP) Capcom 0.45 4.12 0.42 5.00 3 Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (PSP) Unknown 0.00 4.08 0.00 4.08 4 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories (PSP) Rockstar Games 1.74 0.05 2.11 3.90 5 Daxter (PSP) Sony Computer Entertainment 2.43 0.00 1.15 3.59 6 Ratchet & Clank: Size Matters(PSP) Sony Computer Entertainment 1.58 0.10 1.50 3.18 7 God of War: Chains of Olympus(PSP) Sony Computer Entertainment 1.61 0.04 1.08 2.73 8 Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII(PSP) Square Enix 1.30 0.80 0.60 2.70 9 Monster Hunter Freedom 2 (PSP) Capcom 0.39 1.75 0.28 2.42 10 Need for Speed: Most Wanted 5-1-0 (PSP) Electronic Arts 1.62 0.02 0.72 2.36 Yep, Those are the top selling PSP games.  Well, using Chains of Olympus as an example, I'd say there's a reason that the highest rated PSP game, released on a system with a much higher userbase than the PS3 had last year, and bundled for months in NA, was soundly trounced in sales by God of War III.  Ghost of Sparta did far, far worse. You can blame gimped controls all you want, but the PSP God of War games were also far shorter and uglier than their console counterparts, and they were made by a third party instead of the original developers.  Anybody in their right mind would prefer to play the actual trilogy, even if the PSP had dual analog controls. And controls wouldn't have been an issue at all if developers hadn't focused on making console clones.  Guerrilla Games did things right with Killzone: Liberation, though the game had its problems in other areas.  If only more of Sony's internal studios had taken the platform seriously. However, I think NGP will do much better in this regard.  Just looking at Uncharted, it makes heavy use of touch controls for things like maps and whatnot, helping to differentiate itself from its console brethren instead of simply being an inferior clone.  Though most of the additions we've seen so far are gimmicky and superficial at best.

Who hacked your account?

Are you serious?  For years all people complained about was the PSP crappy control, it was a huge flaw, and was the most wanted fix on the PSP. 

I've played both GOW games, and throughout my times, I never cared on how short or how it looked, i really missed how it controlled on the PS3. The stories are better on the PSP, it's just as epic and frankly some of the best games on the PSP. The only thing it was missing was in the control area.

And yes I agree Sony also messed up with the PSP, but I feel that their biggest mistake was the making a non touch PSP with a crappy controller. 

It's your problem too, because overall success of the system will influence the future choices that will be available to you.

You really should find a friend that own either of Spirit Track or Phantom Hourglass and try it.

Then you can come back here and facepalm.