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Xen said:
sapphi_snake said:
Xen said:
Chrizum said:
RageBot said:

1. Stop listening to your friends

2. Go out, try starting random conversation with girls about whatever, try to make them longer each time, and try and learn as much as you can about them.

3. Learn pickup.

4. Practice pickup

5. Become a fun, self-confident guy who a lot of pepole would like to hang out with.

6. By now you'll find someone that you like and that stands by your new standards.

You've got it all figured out haven't ya?

That is the general formula, however. I was practicing even when I was in a relationship just for the sake of practice.

LOL. Cheater!

I never actually dated them or had sex with them, so not really. But practicing flirt takes you a long way.

It's emotional cheating. If someone did that to me I'd shoot them.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

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sapphi_snake said:
Xen said:
sapphi_snake said:
Xen said:
Chrizum said:
RageBot said:

1. Stop listening to your friends

2. Go out, try starting random conversation with girls about whatever, try to make them longer each time, and try and learn as much as you can about them.

3. Learn pickup.

4. Practice pickup

5. Become a fun, self-confident guy who a lot of pepole would like to hang out with.

6. By now you'll find someone that you like and that stands by your new standards.

You've got it all figured out haven't ya?

That is the general formula, however. I was practicing even when I was in a relationship just for the sake of practice.

LOL. Cheater!

I never actually dated them or had sex with them, so not really. But practicing flirt takes you a long way.

It's emotional cheating. If someone did that to me I'd shoot them.

The possibility sends chills down my spine...



Xen said:
sapphi_snake said:
Xen said:
sapphi_snake said:
Xen said:
Chrizum said:
RageBot said:

1. Stop listening to your friends

2. Go out, try starting random conversation with girls about whatever, try to make them longer each time, and try and learn as much as you can about them.

3. Learn pickup.

4. Practice pickup

5. Become a fun, self-confident guy who a lot of pepole would like to hang out with.

6. By now you'll find someone that you like and that stands by your new standards.

You've got it all figured out haven't ya?

That is the general formula, however. I was practicing even when I was in a relationship just for the sake of practice.

LOL. Cheater!

I never actually dated them or had sex with them, so not really. But practicing flirt takes you a long way.

It's emotional cheating. If someone did that to me I'd shoot them.

The possibility sends chills down my spine...

Good thing you're not dating me then.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Ok, reading this thread just made me depressed...on another note, does anybody wanna be my valentine...I have pictures of candy and roses for you, lol.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

PhoenixKing said:

And... according to my friends, nearly all of whom have done the above mentioned in my topic title, I'm not missing anything.

Apparently, I'm the lucky one because, according to one, I'm a 'clean slate'. I don't have any bad break-ups like they do and I'm not super depressed about that 'one person' who could make me happy all the time. It's not 'too late' for me to move on and such.

A lot of my friends have fallen in love and... well... are still depressed over break-ups that have been years in the past. It's rather sad to see... It makes me think relationships are all bad, lol. My parents aren't divorced but they have so many fights all the time and my grandpa cheats on my grandma... so yeah...

Um, what do you guys think? I mean, I thought I missed out when younger or was a failure like some people on other boards mentioned but... looking at what happens when relationships degrade so much...

You've got the right idea man.. You definelty don't need to worry about that stuff now. At least it only took you till 21 to figure it out. Because before you know it you're 24, still in the same situation, and just wishing you could go back and not ruin those earlier years of your life by stressing out about it.

Plus, they say you meet someone when you least expect it..

For a time I was really depressed about not having a girlfriend, but the more I go, the more I begin to think we are better off. Seeing friends and family in relationships, you see break ups, and these people get all depressed.. Not my thing. If you're happy being single, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. It's less stressful, you get to have more personal time, not to mention far cheaper :). I feel lonely sometimes, but then again who doesn't? Lonely is just a state of mind anyway. You can be in a relationship and still feel lonely.

I did get kinda close to this girl in highschool, but I was more shy back then, too chicken to ask her out. Plus, the age difference I felt was a bit taboo. I was nearly 4 years older than her. It wouldn't be as weird now, but unfortunately we kinda went our separate ways.



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Metallicube said:
PhoenixKing said:

And... according to my friends, nearly all of whom have done the above mentioned in my topic title, I'm not missing anything.

Apparently, I'm the lucky one because, according to one, I'm a 'clean slate'. I don't have any bad break-ups like they do and I'm not super depressed about that 'one person' who could make me happy all the time. It's not 'too late' for me to move on and such.

A lot of my friends have fallen in love and... well... are still depressed over break-ups that have been years in the past. It's rather sad to see... It makes me think relationships are all bad, lol. My parents aren't divorced but they have so many fights all the time and my grandpa cheats on my grandma... so yeah...

Um, what do you guys think? I mean, I thought I missed out when younger or was a failure like some people on other boards mentioned but... looking at what happens when relationships degrade so much...

You've got the right idea man.. You definelty don't need to worry about that stuff now. At least it only took you till 21 to figure it out. Because before you know it you're 24, still in the same situation, and just wishing you could go back and not ruin those earlier years of your life by stressing out about it.

Plus, they say you meet someone when you least expect it..

For a time I was really depressed about not having a girlfriend, but the more I go, the more I begin to think we are better off. Seeing friends and family in relationships, you see break ups, and these people get all depressed.. Not my thing. If you're happy being single, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. It's less stressful, you get to have more personal time, not to mention far cheaper :). I feel lonely sometimes, but then again who doesn't? Lonely is just a state of mind anyway. You can be in a relationship and still feel lonely.

I did get kinda close to this girl in highschool, but I was more shy back then, too chicken to ask her out. Plus, the age difference I felt was a bit taboo. I was nearly 4 years older than her. It wouldn't be as weird now, but unfortunately we kinda went our separate ways.

Yes, when you were 18 she was just a tween. Huge difference. Good thing you never asked her out, or you'll probablq be getting out of jail now, and placed on the sex offenders' list.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Baalzamon said:

Ok, reading this thread just made me depressed...on another note, does anybody wanna be my valentine...I have pictures of candy and roses for you, lol.

OK, I'll PM you my adress so you can send me my flowers and candy. I expect a plane ticket so you can take me on a romantic date in Rome. Oh, and I won't put out, but if you play your cards right, I may give you a kiss.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

PhoenixKing said:

And... according to my friends, nearly all of whom have done the above mentioned in my topic title, I'm not missing anything.

Apparently, I'm the lucky one because, according to one, I'm a 'clean slate'. I don't have any bad break-ups like they do and I'm not super depressed about that 'one person' who could make me happy all the time. It's not 'too late' for me to move on and such.

A lot of my friends have fallen in love and... well... are still depressed over break-ups that have been years in the past. It's rather sad to see... It makes me think relationships are all bad, lol. My parents aren't divorced but they have so many fights all the time and my grandpa cheats on my grandma... so yeah...

Um, what do you guys think? I mean, I thought I missed out when younger or was a failure like some people on other boards mentioned but... looking at what happens when relationships degrade so much...

I seldom comment on personal issues, but I want to throw out a few morsels of thought, from the point of view of someone who is quite older and has been through a lot of personal turmoils.

First of all, your friends are either being cowards or mollycoddling you. Same with everybody who is indulging this idea of "messy breakups make it not worth it".

All great steps and experiences in life require hard work and can lead to unhappiness, self-deprecation and pain. Each one of them: from investing your energies in a job or creative effort, to a sentimental or emotional bonding, to educating and caring for a child.

If you want a lot, you have to invest yourself and if you do so, you're liable to being hurt in many ways. That's life for you, and that's why we can heal and learn from most things.

Being coward is a legitimate temporary reaction to harm, but linger in it too much and it will cripple you. Preach cowardice and you're harming people. Recognize that it is itself a problem and learn that you have to wade past the fear.

Get to the root of it: there's nothing wrong with being 21 and being in your situation. You might be a bit shy, you might have had some bad experiences. Ask yourself if and why you're missing a sentimental or intimate relationship. Are you really missing the confidence, the fun, the support, the sex? Are you doubting of yourself, asking if there's "something wrong" with you? Are you wondering if you'll regret having missed something in your youth?

Well, the big news is that we all doubt of ourselves, we are all scared. Work on yourself, recognize your motivations and fears -you're young and you can steer your life in a thousand directions. But try and learn to laugh in the face of excuses; snap at your friends for their self-consolatory bullshit: being a friend means telling people what you really think they need, not what they want to hear.

We're all there with you in some degree; from the Spoon River Anthology, "George Gray":

I have studied many times

The marble which was chiseled for me—

A boat with a furled sail at rest in a harbor.

In truth it pictures not my destination

But my life.

For love was offered me and I shrank from its disillusionment;

Sorrow knocked at my door, but I was afraid;

Ambition called to me, but I dreaded the chances.

Yet all the while I hungered for meaning in my life.

And now I know that we must lift the sail

And catch the winds of destiny

Wherever they drive the boat.

To put meaning in one’s life may end in madness,

But life without meaning is the torture

Of restlessness and vague desire—

It is a boat longing for the sea and yet afraid.

 

I say you should go out and play. We get hurt, we heal, we learn.



"All you need in life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain

"..." - Gordon Freeman

sapphi_snake said:
Baalzamon said:

Ok, reading this thread just made me depressed...on another note, does anybody wanna be my valentine...I have pictures of candy and roses for you, lol.

OK, I'll PM you my adress so you can send me my flowers and candy. I expect a plane ticket so you can take me on a romantic date in Rome. Oh, and I won't put out, but if you play your cards right, I may give you a kiss.

I always have wanted to go to Rome...I'll let you know when I'm making a shit ton of money in 10 years so I can afford it, lol.

Edit: But since no vgcharters thought it necessary to help me out on my Calc 3 studying...I'll probably fail my test and become a bum for the rest of my life.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

WereKitten said:
PhoenixKing said:

And... according to my friends, nearly all of whom have done the above mentioned in my topic title, I'm not missing anything.

Apparently, I'm the lucky one because, according to one, I'm a 'clean slate'. I don't have any bad break-ups like they do and I'm not super depressed about that 'one person' who could make me happy all the time. It's not 'too late' for me to move on and such.

A lot of my friends have fallen in love and... well... are still depressed over break-ups that have been years in the past. It's rather sad to see... It makes me think relationships are all bad, lol. My parents aren't divorced but they have so many fights all the time and my grandpa cheats on my grandma... so yeah...

Um, what do you guys think? I mean, I thought I missed out when younger or was a failure like some people on other boards mentioned but... looking at what happens when relationships degrade so much...

I seldom comment on personal issues, but I want to throw out a few morsels of thought, from the point of view of someone who is quite older and has been through a lot of personal turmoils.

First of all, your friends are either being cowards or mollycoddling you. Same with everybody who is indulging this idea of "messy breakups make it not worth it".

All great steps and experiences in life require hard work and can lead to unhappiness, self-deprecation and pain. Each one of them: from investing your energies in a job or creative effort, to a sentimental or emotional bonding, to educating and caring for a child.

If you want a lot, you have to invest yourself and if you do so, you're liable to being hurt in many ways. That's life for you, and that's why we can heal and learn from most things.

Being coward is a legitimate temporary reaction to harm, but linger in it too much and it will cripple you. Preach cowardice and you're harming people. Recognize that it is itself a problem and learn that you have to wade past the fear.

Get to the root of it: there's nothing wrong with being 21 and being in your situation. You might be a bit shy, you might have had some bad experiences. Ask yourself if and why you're missing a sentimental or intimate relationship. Are you really missing the confidence, the fun, the support, the sex? Are you doubting of yourself, asking if there's "something wrong" with you? Are you wondering if you'll regret having missed something in your youth?

Well, the big news is that we all doubt of ourselves, we are all scared. Work on yourself, recognize your motivations and fears -you're young and you can steer your life in a thousand directions. But try and learn to laugh in the face of excuses; snap at your friends for their self-consolatory bullshit: being a friend means telling people what you really think they need, not what they want to hear.

We're all there with you in some degree; from the Spoon River Anthology, "George Gray":

I have studied many times

The marble which was chiseled for me—

A boat with a furled sail at rest in a harbor.

In truth it pictures not my destination

But my life.

For love was offered me and I shrank from its disillusionment;

Sorrow knocked at my door, but I was afraid;

Ambition called to me, but I dreaded the chances.

Yet all the while I hungered for meaning in my life.

And now I know that we must lift the sail

And catch the winds of destiny

Wherever they drive the boat.

To put meaning in one’s life may end in madness,

But life without meaning is the torture

Of restlessness and vague desire—

It is a boat longing for the sea and yet afraid.

 

I say you should go out and play. We get hurt, we heal, we learn.

Great post!



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)