elticker said:
elticker said:
Slimebeast said:
elticker said:
Joelcool7 said:
elticker said:
Joelcool7 said:
I hope the military does a good job of ensuring democracy and human rights. I'm not sure what is in the Egyptian Constitution but freedom of religion, speech etc...etc... need to be ensured in a future Egypt. The Military should also ensure that no radical extremist groups are allowed to participate in the election. Also the military should do everything in its power to keep Egypt on a moderate path.
If Muslim Brotherhood get in during elections lets hope they don't try to radicalize the country. Also the Egyptian Christian's have faced persecution for years I hope that the military and Government (Who ever elected) take steps to protect minorities.
In the end I hope the new Government isn't radical, a true human rights loving democratic party would do wonders for Egypt. Imagine a middle eastern country with all the freedoms and democracy of a western nation, that would be amazing and thats what I hope happens. But theirs a chance tyrants will get in control, start a war thousands if not millions will die, that would not be good at all.
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are you talking about the same brotherhood i think i know since they were walking with women and christains in the streets they prayed in their own way without the brotherhood interruption and they didn't tell women to cover their heads. you know what a democracy is right so if people want hte brotherhood to rule egypt then it should as people make decision and reap the benefits or the consequences. egyptains should decide their future.
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Yep I'm talking about the same Brotherhood. While they appear more moderate now they used to have an armed wing which we would call terrorists. From what I've heard reported the BrotherHood is pro-strict sharia law and also a supporter of Hamas and Hezbullah.
Also yes your right in a democracy the Egyptians will choose the Government. I just hope that some political parties are formed that will ensure Egypt remains on the path of human rights and peace. A government that supports Hamas and Hezbullah would be very bad for Egypt and peace in the middle east.
As Mr.Bubbles said the west is alittle concerned if an extremist group or supporter of extremist groups got in control it could lead to a new huge war in the middle east. We all know that any huge war in the middle east will only bring repression , pain and suffering and hatred. Thousands to millions could die and even more would be displaced.
Plus we all know Israel would kick Egypt, Lebanon and Hamas's butts if another huge war occured. If they ever looked like they were loosing the west would come in and rescue them. Either way it would be a disaster for Egyptian's Palestinian's , Lebanese and Israeli's.
Nobody would make any gains in a war and who ever wins the war would still have lost far more then they could possibly gain.
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we will see about that as i am sure there will be a war between israel and egypt but i don't forsee it until atleast 20 to 30 years when egypt has established itself. I am an egyptain and currently i don't want war with israel but in the future when we get pwoerful enough i want us to help palestine by stopping all the land israel is getting by stealing it from the original owners and keep peace between them, but if another war is to happen i hope israel doesn't resort to nuclear weapons threat so that the usa could support them like they did in 1973. Also take in mind that the yum kippur war was only syria and egypt, saudi arabia, jordan, all the oil countries didn't participate until the war was almost over.
also if they listened to saad elshazly we would have tactically won as they disobeyed him and thats why the israeli counterattack was so successful. i have to admit that the israeli commando performance was great which in part led to the disruption of our communication which was also a major factor in the breakdown of our defenses. also many claim that the 1973 war convinced arabs that israel is undefeatable buti believe and so many egyptains that we can beat israel if we go to another war, however i don't want to go to war as egyptains will be killed in the war.
the israeli airforce was superior to the egyptain air force.
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The Jews came there first, long before Arabs. In my personal opinion Arabs don't even really belong in Egypt. Arabs conquered Egypt, made the population Islamic and forced the Christians to submit and become a silent minority and I don't think that's a good thing.
It's saddening to hear you as an Egyptian are talking about a future war with Israel only because you are so upset about the Palestinian situation. Only because they're your Arab brothers.
No wonder Israel sees the whole Arab/muslim world as a threat.
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arabs didn't force christains to convert btw. you just had to pay a 2.5% of your income fee which is so much more cheaper than taxes besides muslims are also supposed ot pay that. Besides i find war with israel a must in the future if we were to support palestinaines in which israel evicts the original residents to put their own. If they stop stuff like that it becomes so much easier for me to imagine peace with israel.
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also they support our dictators to keep us opressed which is more than enough of a reason to go to war. A war for freedom as they were the ones supporting mubarak all these years along with the USA. USA hypocracy about democracy is so obvious. its a democracy only if it suits the USA. you know the USA interveining in our internal affairs is what actaully makes us not like the USA. Most don't hate the USA but dislike how it intervienes in every affair, it sucks when our country has to be opressed for 30 years by the USA and have no dignity, being humilated in almost all arab countries because we kept getting poorer once that dictator mubarak became president. You know I actually felt proud by what we did so proud and happy, that i actually realised that the USA is what kept us so humiliated. you don;t know how it feels. i am going to canada for university, i wish i could go to egypt for uni but hte universities in egypt suck right now cause of how bad the ministry of education is, the ministary of education was chosen by mubarak has he did fixed elections.
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You do know that the US is basically why Mubarack stepped down right? Had their not of been urgings from the US... he would of got much more violent.
Your general black and white thinking is quite disturbing and the same side coin of the things you claim to hate.
I mean, look how unhappy people were at the US in the last two attempts they've made to institute democracies.
In general, the USA can't win...and by default gets blamed for things soley because it's the biggest guy in the room, and it's easier to blame the biggest guy in the room then it is to deal with the reality of the situation and why things are the way they were.
The US was very quick to support a revolution when one was viable, the behind the scenes work it did preventing things from getting out of hand was very intergral. To blame them for working with the people in charge when there was no viable alternative is just a wrong conception. Afterall, as has been shown, the world doesn't like it when the US fights peoples revolutions for them.
