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So I read today that within a few days the Afghan Government plans to execute a man for converting to Christianity from Islam. Now a few years ago their was a similiar case but after Canada, USA, Italy and other countries got upset the man was granted asylum.

However in this case Said Musa has three days to convert to Islam again or he will be killed. Afghanistan signed Universal Decleration of Human rights which states every citizen has the right to freedom of religion. Our countries (While anyone in Canada, USA, U.K or most of europe) are the ones who put this government in place.

Our countries should demand immediaty that the Afghan Government not execute this poor individual. How else are we supposed to help create a democratic Afghanistan if we don't even stand up for the basic values that make democracy work.

I am ashamed to know that my countries soldiers are dead and being killed for a Government that will slaughter anyone who converts from Islam. Why are we helping this horrible regime, we should be demanding immediate change or withdrawing our troops.

Womens rights are also being reversed, what makes this Government any better then the Taliban, if they would kill someone for simply not believing as they believe then they don't deserve help from the democratic countries of the world.

 

Edit - He was freed today but other converts may still be executed. Our Government's helped one lets hope they stick up for the remaining prisoners



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer

 

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Well. There's still unobtainium that we hadn't extracted from Afghan...



how did you find out about this?If i were a leader i would help the man but do they know this is happening?



Because it is an Afghan civilian;.. If UK/USA say something about it will probably not change anything;..

Democracy would not have helped if the majority says he should be excuted;..



 

Oh dear.

Initially I was sceptical about this story, but a little research shows that it was true. The reason that I was sceptical is that it is in article 2 of the UN universal declaration of human rights, which I believe Afghanistan have to follow, that no one shall have distinction made by their government based on their religion. They are breaking this code if they execute this convert. Heck, they are breaking the law if they give him a slap on the wrist.

If they do go through with this then I should hope that the whole world who abide by the universal declaration of human rights condemns them for their actions.

I think people should have the right to believe whatever religion they like.



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highwaystar101 said:

Oh dear.

Initially I was sceptical about this story, but a little research shows that it was true. The reason that I was sceptical is that it is in article 2 of the UN universal declaration of human rights, which I believe Afghanistan have to follow, that no one shall have distinction made by their government based on their religion. They are breaking this code if they execute this convert. Heck, they are breaking the law if they give him a slap on the wrist.

If they do go through with this then I should hope that the whole world who abide by the universal declaration of human rights condemns them for their actions.

I think people should have the right to believe whatever religion they like.

North Korea's on the declaration of Human Rights too. Most of them sign it with riding waivers that more or less state "we'll observe the parts of this that we want to observe" (which is the case with a lot of western countries, too)



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Because we just wanna fucking leave already!

Unlike Iraq, Afghanistan is more or less unwinnable.

In iraq we weren't really looking for anyone so we just kicked everyones ass.  In Afghanistan, we were looking for Bin Laden and wanted to get all the terrorists... so we worked with the local Warlods and Karzai... and in general since the warlords are still in power EVERYTHING is messed up.  We'd basically have to start all over to get things to work right, and even then who knows if a full democracy would think differently.

It really feels like in 10-15 years... Afghanistan will be the war we regret... while public opinion will turn on Iraq and that will be the one we'll be happy with.



You know almost no country that went in battle in Afganistan won. The entire U.S. intervention in Afghanistan has been a waste of time. Afghanistan is unwinnable and will probably never change.



Trentonater said:

how did you find out about this?If i were a leader i would help the man but do they know this is happening?


I was searching the news on Yahoo News. I found a couple articles about it and freaked. I got a reply from my Member of Parliament today saying that the Canadian Government is aware of the situation and is doing all it can to prevent the execution. Though I haven't heard anything on the news about it (local or national) I would hope that if it happens that our governments condem it majorily. But I should hope our Governments can pressure the Afghan Government.

Email your members of parliament, or what ever they have in your country (Congress) or such. We need to do something.

 



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer

 

SpartenOmega117 said:

You know almost no country that went in battle in Afganistan won. The entire U.S. intervention in Afghanistan has been a waste of time. Afghanistan is unwinnable and will probably never change.


I disagree, if we had different intentions, the outcome would have been much different. If the war had been a full scale invasion a la Iraq, Afghanistan would have been in a much better position by now.

Well, that's my view.