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oniyide said:

@Galaki  if you have to get other people to play a game to make it "fun" then the game is not very fun to begin with. "Games should be able to stand on their single player alone". Just saying


Which part of "Party Game" do you not understand?



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TheGameFather said:

^^ Oh I get it, that is funny.

 

Say, do you think more games should use motion plus?  Especially sports games?

 

It offers a much improved level of motion capture which translates into vastly more precise and intricate gameplay mechanics that really take said genre to new heights, wouldn't you say?

 

say how would you use the precision of motion plus in dodgeball?

I can roughly get volleyball, though you're aiming at a tiny screen and that'll suck most of the time.

Basketball... no point to motion plus... unless it's timing the shot, but even then, can't the regular motion do that? (I mean unless the angle unrealistically considers you perfectly facing the rim every time, it's a bit hard to supose people will be able to jauge the angles.

Hockey.... well you could be holding the stick, but how practical would that be to move arround?

 

Games like Grand Slam used motion plus for the racket angle, games like wii sports used it for sword, ping pong racket, frisbee disk, golf club.... all items you hold in your hand and that are not spherical, unlike a ball that you either hold with 2 hands or just hit with your hand.... and to be realistic, if you ever played sports, your hand is definitely not flat as a racket... The wii motion plus is limited in it's use...

(also I don't know if you've noticed, but the games use over the top moves and stuff ala NBA Jam... which I wouldn't consider as fit as for more realistic movement controls anyways).

That said I love my wii motion plus games, I just don't see how it could have worked here.



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@thegamefather  Im with you 100% but unfortunately your wishing on an invisible star. If Ninty doesnt want to support it you cant expect 3rd parties too. It would be great. Havent played a Motion title since Red Steel 2. Im kinda glad in a way that Move and Kinect exist because at least those seem to be getting some support.

@lordtheknight  so out of curiosty. Who do you trust? THe reader review scene is not that much better. its full of fanboys who make reviews b4 the game is even out. One could make the argument that you should play a game yourself but in the case of Wii they dont have a retail demo selection and I would be stupid to drop 50 on a game to see if its truly better than what most are saying



@Galaki  this is an arcade sports games, this isnt Mario Party. If it was then we wouldnt have this conversation. Now if SE tried to do a party game in the vein of a arcade sports game, then no wonder its getting mediocore reviews. I wanted a arcade sports game not a damn Mario Party with a Sports theme



this game was a bad idea.  It looked really uninspired to me



                                                                           

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oniyide said:

@thegamefather  Im with you 100% but unfortunately your wishing on an invisible star. If Ninty doesnt want to support it you cant expect 3rd parties too. It would be great. Havent played a Motion title since Red Steel 2. Im kinda glad in a way that Move and Kinect exist because at least those seem to be getting some support.

@lordtheknight  so out of curiosty. Who do you trust? THe reader review scene is not that much better. its full of fanboys who make reviews b4 the game is even out. One could make the argument that you should play a game yourself but in the case of Wii they dont have a retail demo selection and I would be stupid to drop 50 on a game to see if its truly better than what most are saying


I look at people I know are at least somewhat close to my taste. Plus it's usually the really hyped titles that get flooded by fanboy outliers.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

@lordtheknight  fair enough, unfortunately for me the few people i know who own a Wii are the WiiFit crowd and arent really gamers, so I have to rely on either demos and reviews and since this game has no demo...



The only good sports Mario's were on the N64.



oniyide said:

@lordtheknight  fair enough, unfortunately for me the few people i know who own a Wii are the WiiFit crowd and arent really gamers, so I have to rely on either demos and reviews and since this game has no demo...


1. You aren't making gaming more credible by claiming who is and isn't a "real" gamer.

2. Even if they don't like the "hardcore" kind of games, even the other group would still be too diverse to rely upon.

3. What makes you think I'm going by just people I know? I meant looking at people online.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

@lordtheknight  If someone bought a Wii JUST for WiiFit and nothing else, then after a month of using it. It ends up in their closet. THat is not a gamer. You can spin that anyway you want.

Why would I not rely on reviews??? its not like i have alot of options. Its not like my gaming friends would rush out to get this game, so cant get their opinions. Dont wanna rely on people online, because IMHO they have a bias either way. ANd im not spending 50 bucks on the off chance that 20 something so-so reviews might be wrong. Not when there are better games right around the corner (Mvs.C3 for one)