Well if you had then you'd know, instead you're either lying on the forums or lying to yourself, take your pick really.  And I didn't highlight play like Killzone, you said have weight, and that's what I highlighted.  And that is just garbage.  Sorry to be really blunt about this but in any of the FPS leagues on the forums people know me and people know that I know my shit so there's really not a contest on this.

If you've played CoD like you said you have you'd know the gun types have weight, you can't spin around with a light machine gun like you can with say a pistol, it goes by size, the bigger it is, the slower the spin and weight to the gun, and has been that way since World at War.

//end rant. Kudos to anyone who read the whole thing.

I posted this on KZ3 forums.

This game appeals to people who suck at games, it is full of things the remove any need for skills and are just 'I win' buttons.  Plenty other removals of good things too, as well as adding many bad ones.

- Squad spawn is gone, as is the best method of teamwork.  Nobody wants to halt their squad somewhere while a member runs from where a spawn point is, probably lose a member while waiting defeating the point.

 - If the beta map any indication GG still do not know how to balance maps.

 - One hit kill melee/brutal melee in genral, because running direct at someone who is shooting me in the chest should always be my best defence?

 - Near perma cloak marksmen with the silenced gun, because invisibility that only lasts a while isn't hugely powerful already?

 - One hit kill body shot snipers, why bother to rely on skills going for headshots right?

 - Objective games rewarding kills (which you made simple to get due to noob things like 1 hit melee kills, perma cloak or one hit body shot kills) more than objective stuff, sitting back and camping or just whizzing around to melee everything will get you more points even if your team loses the match.

 - The poor amount of sprint everyone but infiltrator gets, encourages camping since breaking between cover is higher risk.  Tacticion especially suffers for helghast since need make a long as hell run to the nearest spawn capture point.  Plenty of 1 hit kill snipers to pop at your stamina drained behind.

 - Spawn point system, you really have no idea how to balance spawncamping do you?  These are not it, squads spawns and balance maps is how you do it.

 - Custom matches worthless because not ranked, so cannot even turn off some of the crud added.

 - No server browser, because joining 4 games in a row with only 4 people per team and leaving instantly every time to look for a fuller game is so what I want to spend my time doing.

 - You know I could go on, but in short you removed the need for skills with stupid abilties or weapons, you didn't fix any of the problems with KZ2 just added a bunch, you made several problems with KZ2 worse and you took away many option for players.

GG to use an old saying you are all graphics and no gameplay, or rather poor gameplay.

...followed by a screenshot of a cancelled pre-order, for the lols.

I reached top rank in a week.  A few hours a day only.

My opinion:

1) Guerilla has confirmed custom games. Not sure how they're going to do it, but they did confirm it on the KZ forums.

2) Agree there, usually takes forever to get into the action, if you can find it.

3) You can't just run up to people and brutal melee them. I've tried, and sometimes they can still shoot you a few half-seconds after the Brutal Melee gets activated. I've killed melee'ers as well, so it works for both sides.

4) This happens in all games with set spawnpoints... BFBC2 as well. Nothing you can really do about it but leave game [which IS a valid technique... If you're being spawncamped, LEAVE. Don't know how often I tell this to people...] but it's better than spawn grenades and stupid teammates using up the two spawn grenade slots, or spawn grenades right next to an objective, making it chaos, but not fun.

5) Every class has a counter. The tactician can counter the Recon and Infiltrater classes using their ability. Plus, it's better than snipers who camp a mile away; at least now Recons are effective, because it takes so many points to invest.

6) Agree there, when you improve the controls = there should be more recoil, Guerilla... not less.

7) When you develop a game, and more people are attacking the concept rather than defending it, you know you need to change it. "for some reason, it feels like one ate a bag of snails when trying to move and shoot at the same time with an automatic weapon while in kz2, you stayed light on your feet." Lolwut? I don't really know what you're saying here, but if you're saying that in KZ2 you were light on your feet, while in KZ3 you are more like wading in a swamp well... You may need to get your controller checked. About 90% of people like KZ3's new controls, so Guerilla did their job right.

This is of course my opinion to your replies, so feel free to read if anyone has the attention span

Just tried the KZ3 beta last night with move controls.
I used the default settings because I just wanted to get into the game.

At first MOVE was really hard to get used to. I couldn't get used to moving the camera while strafing. However, there was a moment when I eventually got it. And it was amazing. I still have a lot of practicing to do... but someone like me who never really liked controllers for FPS, this is a much better way to play.

Anyone else try it?

I mentioned this in another KZ3 thread earlier but I tried using move controls on the open beta, but for some reason i just couldnt figure it out. i thought i would just jump in and play and that it would be very intuitive, but i found myself staring at the sky or my feet most of the time. i couldnt figure out what the appropriate dead zone should be and how sensitive the pointer should be as well. what killed me was it would take time to turn initially, but once i did start turning he would just make a sudden 180 degree turn. so yeah, i went back to dualshock controls after trying it out. but im guessing i just need to practice and reach that "i get it" point which i certainly did not get to last night.