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Wagram on 07 February 2011
nightsurge said:
Wagram said:
NotStan said:
Wagram said:

There is a year difference between the HD consoles and fanboys seem to completely disregard that. On a time from launch basis the PS3 is beating the 360 by a good margin.

Au contraire, it's the fanboys that insist on aligning the launch dates so they can claim that PS3 is the king, boo hoo MS got a year head start, people are cherry picking as if releasing a product earlier is an illegal practice.

Gen started when MS released the 360, so the sales of all the consoles entering that gen count from the beginning. Wii came out later and still managed to whoop the 360.


Believe what you will but the data shows that Sony is in fact winning. However Nintendo is winning all around.

Lol? Didn't realize being millions behind counted as winning?


/sigh another person who can't read. Must be going around. I give up on you people.



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nightsurge on 07 February 2011
Wagram said:
nightsurge said:
Wagram said:
NotStan said:
Wagram said:

There is a year difference between the HD consoles and fanboys seem to completely disregard that. On a time from launch basis the PS3 is beating the 360 by a good margin.

Au contraire, it's the fanboys that insist on aligning the launch dates so they can claim that PS3 is the king, boo hoo MS got a year head start, people are cherry picking as if releasing a product earlier is an illegal practice.

Gen started when MS released the 360, so the sales of all the consoles entering that gen count from the beginning. Wii came out later and still managed to whoop the 360.


Believe what you will but the data shows that Sony is in fact winning. However Nintendo is winning all around.

Lol? Didn't realize being millions behind counted as winning?


/sigh another person who can't read. Must be going around. I give up on you people.

Lol? The fact of the matter is that even if you want to use some lame race analogy with the 360 having a head start it is STILL in the lead overall, so no matter what, the data shows the PS3 is most definitely not winning.

The cherry picked data that is flawed for many many reasons, maybe, but not the overall data which is the only important measure.

Nice flaming, though.



nightsurge on 07 February 2011
Viper1 said:
mantlepiecek said:


You are just stressing how poor the brand did, not doing. Its doing very well right now. When this gen ends PS3 will most likely have profited from this gen (Sony expects it to, anyway) and that will undo the "biggest financial failure of gaming history".

Just because Federer used to be 1st, and is now under Nadal doesn't make him a loser. Just saying


Not possible.  they didn't even generate enough profit in the PS and PS2 era to cover that loss.  How are they supposed to make even more than they did in 2 highly successful generations with just 2-3 years left in the generation?

I agree with you, Viper. There is no way Sony will be able to erase the loss they have accrued over 4 years in just the 2-3 years remaining.



Cypher1980 on 07 February 2011
kowenicki said:
monsterone said:

...so if we were to adjust sales for comparable time on the market, which console has sold more? I have been wondering this for a while. seems odd that I havent scene this on the forums before. any info would be great.


its boring (been discussed a bazillion times)

irrelevant (an install base is an install base)

and bloody easy to work out.....

so why start a thread to ask?

This x 1,000,000



Wagram on 07 February 2011
nightsurge said:
Wagram said:
nightsurge said:
Wagram said:
NotStan said:
Wagram said:

There is a year difference between the HD consoles and fanboys seem to completely disregard that. On a time from launch basis the PS3 is beating the 360 by a good margin.

Au contraire, it's the fanboys that insist on aligning the launch dates so they can claim that PS3 is the king, boo hoo MS got a year head start, people are cherry picking as if releasing a product earlier is an illegal practice.

Gen started when MS released the 360, so the sales of all the consoles entering that gen count from the beginning. Wii came out later and still managed to whoop the 360.


Believe what you will but the data shows that Sony is in fact winning. However Nintendo is winning all around.

Lol? Didn't realize being millions behind counted as winning?


/sigh another person who can't read. Must be going around. I give up on you people.

Lol? The fact of the matter is that even if you want to use some lame race analogy with the 360 having a head start it is STILL in the lead overall, so no matter what, the data shows the PS3 is most definitely not winning.

The cherry picked data that is flawed for many many reasons, maybe, but not the overall data which is the only important measure.

Nice flaming, though.


How is that flaming?

I'm seriously getting tired of people who don't take the time to actually READ. I never once stated that the PS3 was beating the 360 world wide. I have stated multiple times (if you would actually READ THE THREAD) that the PS3 is winning in terms of sales from launch on a time basis. The 360 had a year head start but the PS3 has been outselling it.



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nightsurge on 07 February 2011
Wagram said:
nightsurge said:
Wagram said:
nightsurge said:
Wagram said:
NotStan said:
Wagram said:

There is a year difference between the HD consoles and fanboys seem to completely disregard that. On a time from launch basis the PS3 is beating the 360 by a good margin.

Au contraire, it's the fanboys that insist on aligning the launch dates so they can claim that PS3 is the king, boo hoo MS got a year head start, people are cherry picking as if releasing a product earlier is an illegal practice.

Gen started when MS released the 360, so the sales of all the consoles entering that gen count from the beginning. Wii came out later and still managed to whoop the 360.


Believe what you will but the data shows that Sony is in fact winning. However Nintendo is winning all around.

Lol? Didn't realize being millions behind counted as winning?


/sigh another person who can't read. Must be going around. I give up on you people.

Lol? The fact of the matter is that even if you want to use some lame race analogy with the 360 having a head start it is STILL in the lead overall, so no matter what, the data shows the PS3 is most definitely not winning.

The cherry picked data that is flawed for many many reasons, maybe, but not the overall data which is the only important measure.

Nice flaming, though.


How is that flaming?

I'm seriously getting tired of people who don't take the time to actually READ. I never once stated that the PS3 was beating the 360 world wide. I have stated multiple times (if you would actually READ THE THREAD) that the PS3 is winning in terms of sales from launch on a time basis. The 360 had a year head start but the PS3 has been outselling it.

How is that not flaming? You were trying to imply I am not intelligent enough to read.

I read your post perfectly fine, it is your other later response that has no basis and should have been clarified. You can't make incredibly flawed, cherry picking generalizations about the data just to say someone is winning. Personal agenda, perhaps?



AussieGecko on 07 February 2011
mantlepiecek said:


You are just stressing how poor the brand did, not doing. Its doing very well right now. When this gen ends PS3 will most likely have profited from this gen (Sony expects it to, anyway) and that will undo the "biggest financial failure of gaming history".

Just because Federer used to be 1st, and is now under Nadal doesn't make him a loser. Just saying


Ooooh I love tennis analogies, I mean look at Anna Kournikova.. she was a good player and stuff. Lleyton Hewitt he was number one. he isn't first class anymore but he was number 1. Nadal is performing better, in tennis if you are in the top 10 you are still extremely incredible as the basis isnt out of 10. 

If a console is top 3... of home consoles... that could mean first or last. 

Stop looking at the past mantlepiecek its moved on haha



 

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mantlepiecek on 07 February 2011
AussieGecko said:
mantlepiecek said:


You are just stressing how poor the brand did, not doing. Its doing very well right now. When this gen ends PS3 will most likely have profited from this gen (Sony expects it to, anyway) and that will undo the "biggest financial failure of gaming history".

Just because Federer used to be 1st, and is now under Nadal doesn't make him a loser. Just saying


Ooooh I love tennis analogies, I mean look at Anna Kournikova.. she was a good player and stuff. Lleyton Hewitt he was number one. he isn't first class anymore but he was number 1. Nadal is performing better, in tennis if you are in the top 10 you are still extremely incredible as the basis isnt out of 10. 

If a console is top 3... of home consoles... that could mean first or last. 

Stop looking at the past mantlepiecek its moved on haha

Well, the PS3 still isn't a loser because this gen is hardly over. Once its over, you can call it a loser.

Its like deciding who won an F1 race which isn't even complete. Its not possible.

Speaking of F1, Michael Schumacher is another example ;-P



AussieGecko on 07 February 2011
mantlepiecek said:

Well, the PS3 still isn't a loser because this gen is hardly over. Once its over, you can call it a loser.

Its like deciding who won an F1 race which isn't even complete. Its not possible.

Speaking of F1, Michael Schumacher is another example ;-P

Yup now he doesnt have a ferrari he cant win a race to save his life... I suppose you could bring that to video consoles and involving ps2 and sony and schumachers new "ps3" lol



 

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mantlepiecek on 07 February 2011
AussieGecko said:
mantlepiecek said:

Well, the PS3 still isn't a loser because this gen is hardly over. Once its over, you can call it a loser.

Its like deciding who won an F1 race which isn't even complete. Its not possible.

Speaking of F1, Michael Schumacher is another example ;-P

Yup now he doesnt have a ferrari he cant win a race to save his life... I suppose you could bring that to video consoles and involving ps2 and sony and schumachers new "ps3" lol

PS3 will not win this race either. Wii already have...I mean has.