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welshbloke said:

The original post is pointing at a sold number with shipped figures. Always going to be difficult to prove anything one way or another.

Lets suspend belief for a moment and think how this could happen.

Stock - It is highly probable that the PS3 has a higher amount of units in the channel. This is primarily because of how and where the unit are sold. It is because of this spread that they will have to ship more units to more individual distribution agents so this can explain higher numbers of shipped numbers that do not match sold.

At certain points of high demand this figure may drop but I believe it will always have more in the pipe than the 360.

So I cannot disagree that the shipped number gap is what it is what I would question though is trying to translate that number to sold. The other problem is VGC itself and the massive adjustments. These adjustments in my mind make the numbers far less reliable than some give them credit for. The margin of error will be higher but overall I think VGC provides a good early trend indicator.

Lastly I could be wrong but this shipped gap has not really moved much either way it was probably 3 million last year as well.

The thing about shipped numbers though is if they don't translate to sales then the retail store doesn't order more and they just drop the next week, I can see how Sony can have more in the channel since retailers want to keep a decent stock in all their stores but I don't see how it could effect any comparisons they are going to sell



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D-Joe said:
Limelight788 said:

http://www.psuni.com/sony-cuts-microsofts-lead-to-2-1-million-6205/: According to this site, the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 have a 2.1 million gap. So the gap is slowly narrowing, not widening.


"Sony revealed its Q3 financial report which disclosed that the console manufacturer had reached the 47.9 million mark by the end of 2010. Microsoft on the other hand revealed in early January at CES that they had moved 50 million consoles by the same point in time"

...what's wrong with this site,even back to CES,MS said it's "over"

VGChartz is regarded as a somewhat inaccurate site to people outside of here. As a result, some people may use different sites to track sales. They may have gotten the sales from the NPD.



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Limelight788 said:
D-Joe said:
Limelight788 said:

http://www.psuni.com/sony-cuts-microsofts-lead-to-2-1-million-6205/: According to this site, the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 have a 2.1 million gap. So the gap is slowly narrowing, not widening.


"Sony revealed its Q3 financial report which disclosed that the console manufacturer had reached the 47.9 million mark by the end of 2010. Microsoft on the other hand revealed in early January at CES that they had moved 50 million consoles by the same point in time"

...what's wrong with this site,even back to CES,MS said it's "over"

VGChartz is regarded as a somewhat inaccurate site to people outside of here. As a result, some people may use different sites to track sales. They may have gotten the sales from the NPD.

no,that site just use Sony Q3 shipment and MS CES report,but MS Q2 already reported 360 shipped 50.8m



tooto123 said:

plz vgc fix the gap numbers its official now 2.8 only


shipped numbers is not sales numbers pal. No body cares abotu these shipped numbers except desperate Sony fans.



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LordMatrix said:
tooto123 said:

plz vgc fix the gap numbers its official now 2.8 only


shipped numbers is not sales numbers pal. No body cares abotu these shipped numbers except desperate Sony fans.


For the last time, the whole entire gaming industry cares about the shipped numbers. The shipped numbers will always turn up sold to consumers anyways.



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I'm sorry but you numbers are horribly skewed, as of Dec 10 there were 4.2 million more 360s sold then PS3s. It's already been officially announced,so stop making up numbers, thanks.



LordMatrix said:
tooto123 said:

plz vgc fix the gap numbers its official now 2.8 only


shipped numbers is not sales numbers pal. No body cares abotu these shipped numbers except desperate Sony fans.


You are joking, right?

VGC cares about this shipped nos more than the so-called "desperate" Sony fans. Adjustments of over 3 million in the favour of PS3 in the span of last 1 year tells you a good story of how reliable and accurate VGC numbers can be.

If there were no reports of shipped figures then the 10% margin error would be something like 20-25% by now.



Oblivion86 said:

I'm sorry but you numbers are horribly skewed, as of Dec 10 there were 4.2 million more 360s sold then PS3s. It's already been officially announced,so stop making up numbers, thanks.


Officially announced.....hmm...

Source please.



Shipped figures mean nothing.

Do you not recall that the 360 has been limited on stock and sold most of its shipped units? Once that all clears up, the shipped difference will go back to 4 million.

Sorry but "Units Shipped" is what loyal PS3 fans use as an arguement in their beleif that PS3 will one day outsell 360. It's not going to happen, demand is about par, and PS3 is losing popularity in Americas.

Only way PS3 will pass 360 is if the 360 successor comes out before the PS4.

Even then, Kinect may grow the lead substantially preventing that.



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Michael-5 said:

Shipped figures mean nothing.

Do you not recall that the 360 has been limited on stock and sold most of its shipped units? Once that all clears up, the shipped difference will go back to 4 million.

Sorry but "Units Shipped" is what loyal PS3 fans use as an arguement in their beleif that PS3 will one day outsell 360. It's not going to happen, demand is about par, and PS3 is losing popularity in Americas.

Only way PS3 will pass 360 is if the 360 successor comes out before the PS4.

Even then, Kinect may grow the lead substantially preventing that.

Dude Sony shipped over 2 million more ps3s then MS did 360s in the span of 2010, and shipped turned to sold, MS didn't have 2 million worth of shortages, ps3 is outselling 360 and the gap is closing and as I recall MS wasn't having any major shortages until after 2010