What burned in my mind about the last U.S presidental administration was how democracy and freedom were supposed to spread and put an end to terrorism.  Democracy, free markets and western values were heralded as being hallmarks of great success in Afghanistan and Iraq.  Trumpeted were people voting, and it was heralded as a great sign of the success of the last administration.

Well, I pop on Drudge Report, which is a place where the last administration was heralded, and it played a party line with a spin towards neoconservatism, and what do I see, regarding Egypt?  Well, now Egypt is being spun as a failure.  In one article, Obama is said to go down as the president that "lost Egypt".  And you have them talking about how America is losing an ally here.  American has to strongly support the current regime, eventhough the people are revolting. 

What exactly do these individuals want?  What looks like a possible liberation of the Mideast from non-democratic governments that represed their people is seen as a threat.  WHY?  Yes, there are concerns that extremists might get elected, but unless talk of the neocons on western ideals is merely just spin to justify preemptive war, then what gives here?

Seriously, do neocons actually believe in freedom and democracy or don't they?

When it's convenient.

Neocons support capitlism, not democracy.  They could care less whether or not the people they trade with are oppressing their people.  In my eyes Obama has not lost egypt because he had hardly anything to do with it.  But furthermore the toppling of Egypts government will be a good thing if the people can rally around a legitimate regime.

Well, it would seem that you answered your very own question right there since that is precisely what neoconservatives are concerned about. There are Western values besides democracy, you know. Like pluralism. The Copts are worried about living in a post-Mubarak Egypt, and with good reason.

There's certainly a case to be made that Obama is the one who "lost Egypt". According to Pew, America's approval rating in Egypt is roughly half what it was during the Bush administration. Obama going to Cairo and giving one of his pretty little speeches but following it up by doing fuck all to actually support democratic reforms in Egypt might have something to do with that. Maybe his administration has its act together behind the scenes and is quietly working to empower secular democrats in Egypt, but publicly they've looked like a deer in headlights ever since this thing blew up, so I'm doubtful.

Well, I hardly think that this mess in Egypt is going to somehow come out as a nice little democratic wester-values solution...more likely that it will end up in another dictatorship that may or may not end up friendly to the USA. And stability is one of the things that we like here in the USA...

I don't think they really care about Egypt, all they really care about is Egypts relationship with Israel and the ramifications of any of the possibilities that come off either a continuation of the power of those in Egypt or whomeever takes charge.

This isn't really specific to neocons.  Every major political leader and most news networks have taken a questionable stance on the Egyptian revolution, from Obama initially asking for mere reforms from Mubarak's administration, to Hilary Clinton outright expressing support for Mubarak, to CNN, FNC, and the like all playing up the Muslim Brotherhood angle, implying heavily that the Egyptian Revolution could only have a negative outcome.

Few people in Washington legitimately care about spreading democracy to other nations.  They just care about whether said nations have a positive relationship with the US.  Just look at how we treat Suadi Arabia.

Of course, they'll gladly play up the democracy angle if it helps get people on board with their questionable foreign policy (ie, Iraq).

Shame on you Badgenome, they've had enough!

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