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pizzahut451 said:
irstupid said:
pizzahut451 said:
irstupid said:
pizzahut451 said:


Virtual boy is irrelevant. The fact is, 3DS was used by Sony way before 3DS, so implying that Sony planned using  and copying 3D because of 3DS's ''succses'' is ridicilous. Sony had it before §DS, so even if they do come out with portable 3D (which is highly unlikely) they wont be copying anyone.

what are you talking about?  how is virtual boy irrelevant.  It used 3D, that is the point.  End point.  You can't ignore the past. It has nothing to do with Sony or 3DS today.

I am also not saying that sony is copying nintendo's 3ds.  they have no 3D handhelf.  All i'm saying is that sony was not the first company to make 3d video games.  You were stating they were, i was pointing out that, that is indeed false.WHAT? Hell no, i was saying that Sony was using 3D before 3DS, not that they were the first to use 3D in thier games EVER. So if they come out with 3D handheld, they wont be ''eating crow'' or copy anyoe, since they already did use 3D.Nintendo, and others i'm sure had 3d games before sony did.  I wasn't saying sony is copying anybody in 3d, just stating that they did NOT do it first.Then we found our misconception here.

Was avatar the first 3D movie? or spy kids or whatever.  hell no, there have been 3D movies since 1953 at least when hollywood released first big budget one in theatres.  obviously there was also messing aroudn and other 3D movies before that too.  was avatar copying this 1953 movie?  no, but just as above i'm stating james cameron didn't do it first.



how does virtual boy have nothing to do with either? Because its a failed system more than 10 years old.  Doesn't matter its age or success/failure.  It used 3D, end point.

it uses 3D, that is the whole argument.Actually, it isn't, thats what i've ben trying to tell you. I wasnt mentioning virtual boy. I was saying that even if Sony would made a handheld with 3D it wouldnt be copying 3DS (again, THREE-D-S, not fucking virtual boy) How would they not be copying the ONLY other handheld gaming console on the market who happens to have ALREADY been doing 3D?  So by that thinking, if Nintendo implements a back touch pad then they aren't copying Sony.  alright gotcha.

You were saying that sony woudl not be copying Nintendo's 3D because they already are doing it.  I was stating that Nintendo did 3D first.You honestly think Nintendo was the first one to do 3D in video games, Wow, ok...   No I was stating Nintendo did 3D BEFORE SONY.  Thats it.  

The virtual boy was before the PS3's 3D, before the 3DS 3D. And yet i wasnt talking about virtual boy, but 3DS. You can't ignore it.  Doesn't matter if the Virtual boy is this gen hardware or not.  Or are we going to say the 360 was the first system to implement an analog stick.  i mean we can ignore all prior generations right?


your being an idiot.  This has nothign to do with who came out with 3D first, which WAS NOT SONY fyi.Neither was Nintendo, FYI  I know, I was just saying Nintendo did before Sony.

IF Sony says "3D on an handheld is stupid," They didnt say its stupid, they say they find it un-necessary at the moment, don try to twist someone's word to make something out of your argument here.  Thats a PR's way of saying 3D is stupid, but still trying to leave it open for INCASE they want to implement it later like they did MOVE.  but then later makes the NGP have 3D, that is eating crow.

Who came out with 3D first or that Sony was using 3D before means jack shit in this argument. Than why come up and say '' Sony saying they have been using ths technology 15 years ago'' ? You said that, you brought that up, not me.  You brought up how Sony used 3D way before the 3DS.  I brought up the virtual boy which was WAY before any sony 3d.  Case closed.

Its just like when Sony said MOTION was stupid regarding the Wii, and later release the MOVE.  Doesn't matter if they were working on MOVE in 1910, they STILL ATE CROW. But they did work on the technology before Nintendo (if we pretend they started working on Move in 1910) and that was my whole point from the beginning -  That Sony wouldnt copy 3DS if they used 3D.  WHAT.  seriously read what you wrote.  You are really going to believe some jack shit PR saying we were working on said technology for YEARS before someone released theirs.  So your telling me Sony was working on MOVE for years and years before the Wii released, and only finally finished a barely upgradable wiimote .  Oh btw did Nintnedo magically make the Wiimote in a couple months before the Wii release, or could they have ALSO been working on that tech for years?   Arguing on who started working on said tech first is the most moronic argument one can make.  Hell I'm going to start working on a a time machine today.  So whenever someone else finishes one, and i later blatently rip them off, you just remember who started first.  that was me.

 

How do you not get what eating crow is about.  Its saying one thing and doing another.  Regardless of who invented or used 3D first.  Sony is saying that it is dumb for a handheld.  THUS if they implement it on the NGP, they are serving themselves crow.  Doesn't matter if they are working on 3D for the NGP behind scenes, doesn't matter if PS3 is using 3D.  None of that matters.  It only matter on what they say and what they do.Again, they didnt said its stupid, stop twisiting words.   I know they didn't say its stupid flat out.  THEY TWISTED their words to be PR correct and to not be made such fools as with the motion.  They said it so that they can later come out with 3D and go "we said we would implement it when we saw it was necessary" instead of being bashed for disregarding it earlier and copying it later.



First read above, my responces are AFTER your bold's, and before new paragraphs

anyone with half a brain KNOWs that the Move was a ripoff of the wiimote.  

and in same sentence anyone knows this comment by them is a SAFE way of trying to diss the 3DS as a gimmick while not dissing it so openly that they are made to look like fools if later they add 3D.



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Linkasf said:
SaviorX said:

Wow, this thread is beyond petty mudslinging.

It's a black eye on the face of what is usually an intelligent community.

Correction: This place used to have an intelligent community. I'm not sure when it started becoming a New fag fest, but that's what ruined the atmosphere of this site. Was my favorite site on games until a couple of years ago.

Concluding the intelligence level of a community of 70,000 people based on the comments of a small minority of these people = invalid argument.



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Baalzamon said:
Linkasf said:
SaviorX said:

Wow, this thread is beyond petty mudslinging.

It's a black eye on the face of what is usually an intelligent community.

Correction: This place used to have an intelligent community. I'm not sure when it started becoming a New fag fest, but that's what ruined the atmosphere of this site. Was my favorite site on games until a couple of years ago.

Concluding the intelligence level of a community of 70,000 people based on the comments of a small minority of these people = invalid argument.


But most threads that I have read are first a good read but later on become like this thread. And when I say community, I'm talking about people that post often.



Linkasf said:
Baalzamon said:
Linkasf said:
SaviorX said:

Wow, this thread is beyond petty mudslinging.

It's a black eye on the face of what is usually an intelligent community.

Correction: This place used to have an intelligent community. I'm not sure when it started becoming a New fag fest, but that's what ruined the atmosphere of this site. Was my favorite site on games until a couple of years ago.

Concluding the intelligence level of a community of 70,000 people based on the comments of a small minority of these people = invalid argument.


But most threads that I have read are first a good read but later on become like this thread. And when I say community, I'm talking about people that post often.

I was kidding, lmao.  And thats sort of expected, after the first bout of posts gets over, people don't have much to say, so they just make up funny shit, I don't mind it I guess.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

Baalzamon said:
Linkasf said:
Baalzamon said:
Linkasf said:
SaviorX said:

Wow, this thread is beyond petty mudslinging.

It's a black eye on the face of what is usually an intelligent community.

Correction: This place used to have an intelligent community. I'm not sure when it started becoming a New fag fest, but that's what ruined the atmosphere of this site. Was my favorite site on games until a couple of years ago.

Concluding the intelligence level of a community of 70,000 people based on the comments of a small minority of these people = invalid argument.


But most threads that I have read are first a good read but later on become like this thread. And when I say community, I'm talking about people that post often.

I was kidding, lmao.  And thats sort of expected, after the first bout of posts gets over, people don't have much to say, so they just make up funny shit, I don't mind it I guess.

Sometimes. But it gets repetitive.



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While I'll be the first to admit that 3DS sales would probably walk all over NGP, it's amazing how some belive that 3D = auto-success now just because t was done by ninty. From what I'm reading on many sites, the 3D is not that great in the 1st place and you may have to adjust the settings on a per-game basis.

IMO, 3DS = DS with a new gimmick and a little more power

It would surely sell but nowhere near as much as the DS did. It's also in for some tough competition now and I'm thinking Apple not  Sony.



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Pristine20 said:

While I'll be the first to admit that 3DS sales would probably walk all over NGP, it's amazing how some belive that 3D = auto-success now just because t was done by ninty. From what I'm reading on many sites, the 3D is not that great in the 1st place and you may have to adjust the settings on a per-game basis.

IMO, 3DS = DS with a new gimmick and a little more power

It would surely sell but nowhere near as much as the DS did. It's also in for some tough competition now and I'm thinking Apple not  Sony.

The 3DS has 3D settings?

And 3D doesn't equals success, Nintendo portables games do, and thats exactly the department were Sony doesn't stand a single chance against Nintendogs, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing and Super Mario Bros. Now imagine this on 3D glassess-less and you've got a heavy contender.



Oh my science! I come back and the thread is like this? What's the problem if Sony comes to copy Nintendo again?

Grow up, there is no problem in that. It's just the way these companies go.



rubido said:

Oh my science! I come back and the thread is like this? What's the problem if Sony comes to copy Nintendo again?

Grow up, there is no problem in that. It's just the way these companies go.


I think the problem isn't copying per se, it's trashtalking, spreading fud, and then copying.



Kynes said:
rubido said:

Oh my science! I come back and the thread is like this? What's the problem if Sony comes to copy Nintendo again?

Grow up, there is no problem in that. It's just the way these companies go.


I think the problem isn't copying per se, it's trashtalking, spreading fud, and then copying.


I know. I was the one who started this thread. I thought it was a little joke. But then I come back and the discussion is sad about who did what first. Let the companies trash talk all they want. Let's not do their PR for them.

I don't know, I thought people would just laugh about it and move on.