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Should People Take Justice Into Their Own Hands (partocular case)

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axt113 on 31 January 2011

I disagree, as you are merey balancing the scales and even perhaps cleansing them of their sin



Rumors indicate that it is planning on following the first approach, sticking a new, motion-sensitive controller onto an existing console. Our perspective is that this is the worst of the three options.

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sapphi_snake on 31 January 2011
rocketpig said:

If we give up on the idea of rehabilitation, our entire concept of justice and imprisonment may as well be thrown out the window.

What those kids did to that toddler was terrible but it must be kept in mind that they were children themselves. Advocating the murder of children in response to their misguided thought processes is just as repulsive as the atrocities they committed.

So what if they were children? They behaved worse than adults, and they still continue to behave that way today. Maybe killing them is too much, but a lifetime of solitary confinement is ver appropriate I think. Got any better solutions?



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sapphi_snake on 31 January 2011
axt113 said:

I disagree, as you are merey balancing the scales and even perhaps cleansing them of their sin

What do you mean by this?



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

axt113 on 31 January 2011
sapphi_snake said:
axt113 said:

I disagree, as you are merey balancing the scales and even perhaps cleansing them of their sin

What do you mean by this?


Just replying to Rocketpig saying that its wrong to advocate the killng of underage killers



Rumors indicate that it is planning on following the first approach, sticking a new, motion-sensitive controller onto an existing console. Our perspective is that this is the worst of the three options.

-Clayton Christensen back in 2007 already knew Move would be a bad idea

rocketpig on 31 January 2011
sapphi_snake said:
rocketpig said:

If we give up on the idea of rehabilitation, our entire concept of justice and imprisonment may as well be thrown out the window.

What those kids did to that toddler was terrible but it must be kept in mind that they were children themselves. Advocating the murder of children in response to their misguided thought processes is just as repulsive as the atrocities they committed.

So what if they were children? They behaved worse than adults, and they still continue to behave that way today. Maybe killing them is too much, but a lifetime of solitary confinement is ver appropriate I think. Got any better solutions?

Any attempt to rehabilitate a ten year old mind is always a better option than locking it up and throwing away the key. Ten year olds can't fully distinguish right from wrong and do not have the emotional capacity to fully understand their actions. These children were obviously disturbed but that doesn't give a self-proclaimed "progressive" society the right to just cast them aside and try to forget about them.

If we stop trying to rehabilitate the causes of criminal activity, there's no point in continuing down this path. Just shoot everyone who commits a crime in the head and be done with it.

I, for one, would like to think that in the year of 2011, we're better than that as a people.




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rocketpig on 31 January 2011
axt113 said:
sapphi_snake said:
axt113 said:

I disagree, as you are merey balancing the scales and even perhaps cleansing them of their sin

What do you mean by this?


Just replying to Rocketpig saying that its wrong to advocate the killng of underage killers

Um, I said that advocating those kids' death is just as repulsive as the crimes they committed. Not really sure what you mean there.




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sapphi_snake on 31 January 2011
rocketpig said:
sapphi_snake said:
rocketpig said:

If we give up on the idea of rehabilitation, our entire concept of justice and imprisonment may as well be thrown out the window.

What those kids did to that toddler was terrible but it must be kept in mind that they were children themselves. Advocating the murder of children in response to their misguided thought processes is just as repulsive as the atrocities they committed.

So what if they were children? They behaved worse than adults, and they still continue to behave that way today. Maybe killing them is too much, but a lifetime of solitary confinement is ver appropriate I think. Got any better solutions?

Any attempt to rehabilitate a ten year old mind is always a better option than locking it up and throwing away the key. Ten year olds can't fully distinguish right from wrong and do not have the emotional capacity to fully understand their actions. These children were obviously disturbed but that doesn't give a self-proclaimed "progressive" society the right to just cast them aside and try to forget about them.

If we stop trying to rehabilitate the causes of criminal activity, there's no point in continuing down this path. Just shoot everyone who commits a crime in the head and be done with it.

I, for one, would like to think that in the year of 2011, we're better than that as a people.

I think it's one of the self-proclaimed "progressive" society you talk about's faults that they think "rehabilitation" is a solution to this. It's a typical situation of turning the bullies into victims, and abandoning the real victims.

Those two knew very well what they were doing. They never to this day shoed any remorse for what thety did. One of them is even back in jail for peadophilia activities. The only thing these two deserve is to be punished. "Rehabilitation" should be reserved for the situations where someone who commits a small crime (like someone who steals because they come from a poor background) can be brought on the right path and prevent them from commiting bigger crimes. Someone who cold kills an infant in cold blood doesn't deserve "rehabilitation". All they deserve is punishment, not a pat on the back for their acts, like these two got.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

rocketpig on 31 January 2011
sapphi_snake said:
rocketpig said:
sapphi_snake said:
rocketpig said:

If we give up on the idea of rehabilitation, our entire concept of justice and imprisonment may as well be thrown out the window.

What those kids did to that toddler was terrible but it must be kept in mind that they were children themselves. Advocating the murder of children in response to their misguided thought processes is just as repulsive as the atrocities they committed.

So what if they were children? They behaved worse than adults, and they still continue to behave that way today. Maybe killing them is too much, but a lifetime of solitary confinement is ver appropriate I think. Got any better solutions?

Any attempt to rehabilitate a ten year old mind is always a better option than locking it up and throwing away the key. Ten year olds can't fully distinguish right from wrong and do not have the emotional capacity to fully understand their actions. These children were obviously disturbed but that doesn't give a self-proclaimed "progressive" society the right to just cast them aside and try to forget about them.

If we stop trying to rehabilitate the causes of criminal activity, there's no point in continuing down this path. Just shoot everyone who commits a crime in the head and be done with it.

I, for one, would like to think that in the year of 2011, we're better than that as a people.

I think it's one of the self-proclaimed "progressive" society you talk about's faults that they think "rehabilitation" is a solution to this. It's a typical situation of turning the bullies into victims, and abandoning the real victims.

Those two knew very well what they were doing. They never to this day shoed any remorse for what thety did. One of them is even back in jail for peadophilia activities. The only thing these two deserve is to be punished. "Rehabilitation" should be reserved for the situations where someone who commits a small crime (like someone who steals because they come from a poor background) can be brought on the right path and prevent them from commiting bigger crimes. Someone who cold kills an infant in cold blood doesn't deserve "rehabilitation". All they deserve is punishment, not a pat on the back for their acts, like these two got.

Yes, because punishment works so well. It's been tested time and time again how well difficult living conditions, unsafe environments, and punishment squashes the impetus for future criminal activity.

Oh, wait. No, it doesn't.

You can go ahead and believe in your Draconian prison policy but it's been done that way since the beginning of recorded human history and has proven time and time again that it doesn't appear to deter criminal activity in the slightest bit.

They were. ten. years. old. Should they have been locked up for longer? Sure, that's a possibility. Should they have received better psychological treatment and evaluation? Almost assuredly. But to advocate giving up on children and throwing them in prison for life is a rash and emotion-driven response to what could be a fixable problem.




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Kasz216 on 31 January 2011
sapphi_snake said:
rocketpig said:
sapphi_snake said:
rocketpig said:

If we give up on the idea of rehabilitation, our entire concept of justice and imprisonment may as well be thrown out the window.

What those kids did to that toddler was terrible but it must be kept in mind that they were children themselves. Advocating the murder of children in response to their misguided thought processes is just as repulsive as the atrocities they committed.

So what if they were children? They behaved worse than adults, and they still continue to behave that way today. Maybe killing them is too much, but a lifetime of solitary confinement is ver appropriate I think. Got any better solutions?

Any attempt to rehabilitate a ten year old mind is always a better option than locking it up and throwing away the key. Ten year olds can't fully distinguish right from wrong and do not have the emotional capacity to fully understand their actions. These children were obviously disturbed but that doesn't give a self-proclaimed "progressive" society the right to just cast them aside and try to forget about them.

If we stop trying to rehabilitate the causes of criminal activity, there's no point in continuing down this path. Just shoot everyone who commits a crime in the head and be done with it.

I, for one, would like to think that in the year of 2011, we're better than that as a people.

I think it's one of the self-proclaimed "progressive" society you talk about's faults that they think "rehabilitation" is a solution to this. It's a typical situation of turning the bullies into victims, and abandoning the real victims.

Those two knew very well what they were doing. They never to this day shoed any remorse for what thety did. One of them is even back in jail for peadophilia activities. The only thing these two deserve is to be punished. "Rehabilitation" should be reserved for the situations where someone who commits a small crime (like someone who steals because they come from a poor background) can be brought on the right path and prevent them from commiting bigger crimes. Someone who cold kills an infant in cold blood doesn't deserve "rehabilitation". All they deserve is punishment, not a pat on the back for their acts, like these two got.


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axt113 on 31 January 2011
rocketpig said:
axt113 said:
sapphi_snake said:
axt113 said:

I disagree, as you are merey balancing the scales and even perhaps cleansing them of their sin

What do you mean by this?


Just replying to Rocketpig saying that its wrong to advocate the killng of underage killers

Um, I said that advocating those kids' death is just as repulsive as the crimes they committed. Not really sure what you mean there.


hence my point that I don't agree its as bad, since by punishing them, you are merely balancing what they did



Rumors indicate that it is planning on following the first approach, sticking a new, motion-sensitive controller onto an existing console. Our perspective is that this is the worst of the three options.

-Clayton Christensen back in 2007 already knew Move would be a bad idea