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Congress unbowed over CIA tapes
The CIA and justice ministry are holding their own inquiry
Members of the US Congress are to press ahead with their own inquiry into the destruction of CIA interrogation tapes of al-Qaeda suspects.

They confirmed the inquiry despite a warning from the Bush administration that the agency will not co-operate.

The tapes are thought to have shown harsh treatment of terrorist suspects.

The lower house of Congress earlier approved a bill that would ban the CIA from using harsh interrogation techniques such as simulated drowning.

One senior Republican called the CIA arrogant and incompetent and said he was determined to hold it accountable for the destruction of the tapes.

"You've got a community that's incompetent... arrogant and... political and they don't believe that they are accountable to anybody," Peter Hoekstra said.

Jane Harman, a Democrat, said a request from the justice department for a delay smelt like "the cover-up of a cover-up".

The CIA says it destroyed the tapes to protect the identity of its agents.

I nearly LOL when I read "simulated drowning". May as well say the victims are simply learning to swim. 



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Ever tried it out?

it is horrible X_X.






Oh if you want to see it how it works watch this:

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=WGJSIcY3LX4

From 0.40 minute they start with it.

It is in dutch but you don't have to understand it to see how horrible it is;






jesus christ! that is harsh.



Oh my God.. I just saw it too.. that sucks..

wow..



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My god that has to be horrible ... poor terorists ... but than you can say the same about their victims to ...



Vote the Mayor for Mayor!

On the one hand I have no huge compassion with these idiots and I don't think that this will scar them for life.

On the other hand torture of any form and the tendency to hold people captive without due process is something that should be abhorred by every democracy. Imagine someone being really innocent. It is especially ironic for America that had a whole Vietnam trauma about captured American soldiers being hold by Vietnamese.



I always thought this goes by the following logic:

You dont torture cause you pray to god the other side does not torture your guys.



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hunter_alien said:
My god that has to be horrible ... poor terorists ... but than you can say the same about their victims to ...

Note that they do it at terrorist suspects, they are not proven to be terrorists; some innocent people get hurt too...



A note to everybody: Giuliani supports the use of such tactics, and says he knows better than any other candidate why this decision should be made because he was mayor of NYC during 9/11.

What being mayor of a city that got attacked by terrorists has to do with justifying torture, I will never know. You don't see the former mayors of London or Madrid going apeshit pro-torture, do you?