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amp316 said:

They better not replace Johnny with that stupid robot again.  Am I the only one that remembers the robot? 

Boy am I old...

Actually, the original Human Torch WAS an android. The Fantastic Four Human Torch was a straight rip of that character, who was created around the same time as Cap and Namor (WWII-era).

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rocketpig said:
amp316 said:

They better not replace Johnny with that stupid robot again.  Am I the only one that remembers the robot? 

Boy am I old...

Actually, the original Human Torch WAS an android. The Fantastic Four Human Torch was a straight rip of that character, who was created around the same time as Cap and Namor (WWII-era).

/olderthanyou

That Human Torch was used as a template for the Vision, right? Or was that later disproven...



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Mr Khan said:
rocketpig said:
amp316 said:

They better not replace Johnny with that stupid robot again.  Am I the only one that remembers the robot? 

Boy am I old...

Actually, the original Human Torch WAS an android. The Fantastic Four Human Torch was a straight rip of that character, who was created around the same time as Cap and Namor (WWII-era).

/olderthanyou

That Human Torch was used as a template for the Vision, right? Or was that later disproven...

I believe that is the story, yes. Something may have changed but last I read about it, that was the case.

edit: I read up on it and The Vision was actually created by Ultron.




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Mr Khan said:

No, because it never lasts. Johnny will return due to time travel or some sort of Marvel equivalent of Crisis on Infinite Earths, or we'll figure out it was actually caused by Scarlet Witch's pmsing, or Mantis will intercede to rewrite the rules of reality (again), or some combination of the set

As far as American comics go, at any rate. If Anime characters die, they usually stay dead (but that's *if* they actually die, unlike, say, Pell in One Piece, Momo Hinamori in Bleach, or Gaara in Naruto, hell, the whole frickin' village of Konoha in Naruto at one point...)

Spoilers also help to diminish the emotional impact, but if i really liked a character and am certain that they are actually dead, then yes, i can get sad. Kamina in Gurren-Lagann did that, as did Hughes in Fullmetal Alchemist

Don't forget that there is a chance that he will be inhabited by the Phoenix...We can't ever forget about those ones...Of course who wants to open the x-men's can of worms...



people still read the mainstream universe? 



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Trentonater said:

people still read the mainstream universe? 


Have fun in the upcoming storyline where ultimate spiderman dies.



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rocketpig said:
Mr Khan said:
rocketpig said:
amp316 said:

They better not replace Johnny with that stupid robot again.  Am I the only one that remembers the robot? 

Boy am I old...

Actually, the original Human Torch WAS an android. The Fantastic Four Human Torch was a straight rip of that character, who was created around the same time as Cap and Namor (WWII-era).

/olderthanyou

That Human Torch was used as a template for the Vision, right? Or was that later disproven...

I believe that is the story, yes. Something may have changed but last I read about it, that was the case.

edit: I read up on it and The Vision was actually created by Ultron.


The vision was created by ultron, using the original Human Torch's body and the brainwaves of Wonderman.

Oh, and btw, amp316 was talking about this i guess. Herbie the robot replaced the Human Torch in the 70's cartoon, because they were afraid that kids may try to light themself on fire to emulate Johnny Storm.



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VonShigsy said:
Trentonater said:

people still read the mainstream universe? 


Have fun in the upcoming storyline where ultimate spiderman dies.

ultimate comics are unpredictable but bendis wouldn't take it in an unpopular direction. spider-man already died once. 



Trentonater said:
VonShigsy said:
Trentonater said:

people still read the mainstream universe? 


Have fun in the upcoming storyline where ultimate spiderman dies.

ultimate comics are unpredictable but bendis wouldn't take it in an unpopular direction. spider-man already died once. 


When did Spiderman die in ultimate or mainstream universe? Ultimatum left him alive and breathing. Are you talking about Ben Reilly? He was a clone, he doesn't count.



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Dude... MARK THIS THREAD WITH SPOILER WARNINGS... Thanks.



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