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PS3 and Wii battle for Japan 2011 edition

Wii will outsell PS3 by big margin 98 10.35%
 
Wii will slightly outsell PS3 99 10.45%
 
PS3 and Wii will be statistically tied 44 4.65%
 
PS3 will slightly outsell Wii 292 30.83%
 
PS3 will outsell PS3 by big margin 341 36.01%
 
who cares ? 70 7.39%
 
Total:944
Carl2291 said:
What/When is the next significant Wii release in Japan?


Last week, numbers just up, Wii had DQ Collection: despite it, giving Wii a ~50%  boost, and despite PS3 being ~45% down, PS3 won again.

 

Edit: Wii up ~50% on MC, up ~60% on VGC, but the result doesn't change.



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PS3 wins again, not hard considering Wii is starving and down even the week everything else is up.



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A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
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TheSource said:

I feel like we've had this thread since 2009 and Nintendo always pulls something out to stay ahead of PS3 in Japan. I'm fully aware that PS3 has more third party support than Wii does in Japan but Final Fantasy is really the only item on the PS3 side with huge potential to drive hardware for PS3 besides a price cut. Ail and others are correct that Wii is trending down in January 2011 vs January 2010 but PS3 is too. For Wii Inazuma Eleven, Last Story, and Rhythm Heaven have at least some capacity to drive hardware a little bit. I've been expecting Wii to drop below 10,000 in 2011, barring a price cut for the first time since launch since Wii got to 11,000-12,000 a couple times in 2010 but that doesn't mean it still can't beat PS3 in 2011. This is definitely the first year where I'd say it could realistically happen, but I think Wii still has three paths to beating PS3 in Japan.

This is my ranking from most likely to least likely path:

1) Equal Price drop for Wii and PS3 favors Wii. Look at the data for the previous cuts: The PS3 price cut / Slim introduction led to PS3 sales of 2.22m between August 30 2009 and August 28 2010 - to date this is the PS3 peak 12-month period in Japan. The Wii price cut (without a slim, and less Yen off) led to Wii sales of 2.15m between Sept 27 2009 and Sept 25 2010. Both figures also included major hw spikes from sw - NSMB Wii and FFXIII in Dec 2009. Given a 2011 price cut for Wii and PS3 of 5,000 Yen each I'd wager the Wii price cut would be more effective as a PS3 price cut of 10,000 Yen (40,000 Yen to 30,000 Yen) with the PS3 Slim model equalled the Wii price cut of 5,000 Yen (25,000 Yen to 20,000 Yen) without a Slim model. Wii at 15,000 Yen beats PS3 at 25,000 Yen substantially I'd wager. I figure we get price cuts in April, July, or September for both systems worldwide. NGP / 3DS make the lost revenue easier to swallow for both Sony and Nintendo since both are coming by March 2012.

2) Core sequels to major titles - NSMB Wii or MH3 for Christmas, along with a buttress of Zelda and casual long-legged titles for Obon (Rhythm Heaven, Mario Party 9, etc).

3) Dragon Quest X launches two years after Dragon Quest IX. I figure this isn't coming before Obon 2011 or after Dec 2012  with 3DS and NGP both capable of Wii / PS3 graphics and likely to sell far better in Japan, this is the best window for DQX in Japan I think. No matter how fast these new portable devices sell, the Wii base is going to be bigger through at least late 2012. DQIX pushed the massive DS base by like 85,000 units week one - the lift would probably be bigger for Wii since it has fewer users. If I ran Square-Enix I'd put this in late September for Wii next to the price drop, and then the new FF in Dec for PS3. That gives you a 3m DQ quarter for Sept and a 2m FF / 1m DQ quarter for Dec.


Just posting this to see how it stands. Price cut for the Wii effect not as expected by The Source,



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Pandora's Tower will have an opening week of less than 37k in Japan. (Won!)
Pandora's Tower will sell less than 100k lifetime in Japan.
Stakes: 1 week of avatar control for each one.

Fullfilled Prophecies

As usual, here's the monthly upcoming games list update:

Listing all upcoming known retail games from 3rd party Japanese publishers for the PS3/Wii.

Games that will probably sell over 100k in Japan:

PS3:

  • Final Fantasy XIII-2 (Square-Enix)
  • Final Fantasy Versus XIII (Square-Enix)
  • Final Fantasy X HD Remake (Square-Enix)
  • Metal Gear Solid: Rising (Konami)
  • Ninokuni: Queen of the Holy White Ash (Level 5)
  • Winning Eleven 201X (Konami)
  • One Piece Musou (Tecmo-Koei/Namco-Bandai)
  • Gundam Extreme VS. (Namco-Bandai)
  • Super Robot Wars OG 2nd (Namco-Bandai)
  • Musou Orochi 3 (Tecmo-Koei)
  • Devil may Cry (Capcom)
  • Ninja Gaiden 3 (Tecmo-Koei)
  • Ni-Oh (Tecmo-Koei)
  • Naruto: Generations (Namco-Bandai)
  • Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City (Capcom)
  • Zone of the Enders HD Collection (Konami)
  • Dragon's Dogma (Capcom)
  • Soul Calibur V (Namco-Bandai)
  • Street Fighter vs. Tekken (Capcom/Namco-Bandai)
  • Tekken vs. Street Fighter (Namco-Bandai/Capcom)
  • Dead or Alive 5 (Namco-Bandai)
  • Final Fantasy XIV (Square-Enix)
  • Asura's Wrath (Capcom)
  • Saint Seiya Senki (Namco-Bandai)
  • Sengoku Basara 3 Utage (Capcom)
  • Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (Konami)
  • Ace Combat: Assault Horizon (Namco-Bandai)
  • Macross F: Sayonara no Tsubasa (Namco-Bandai)
  • Idolm@ster 2 (Namco-Bandai)
  • Tekken Hybrid (Namco-Bandai)
  • Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (Namco-Bandai)
  • Powerful Pro Baseball 201X (Konami)
  • Pro Baseball Spirits 201X (Konami)
  • Dead Rising 2: Off the Record (Capcom)
  • Dragon's Crown (Ignition Entertainment/Vanillaware)
  • Armored Core 5 (From Software)
  • Imageepoch HD JRPG (Imageepoch)
  • Anarchy Reigns (Sega)
  • Dragon Ball: Ultimate Blast (Namco-Bandai)
  • Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Capcom)
  • The Witch and the Hundred Cavalrymen (Nippon Ichi Software)
  • Persona 4: The Ultimate In Mayonaka Arena (Atlus)
  • .hack//The Movie (CyberConnect2)

Wii:

  • Dragon Quest X (Square-Enix)
  • Taiko Drum Master Kettei-ban (Namco-Bandai)

 

Games that will probably sell below 100k (Or may not be released there at all):

PS3:

  • King of Fighters XIII (SNK Playmore)
  • Pheromone Shooter Gal Gun (Alchemist)
  • Disgaea 4: Fuuka and Desco-hen Hajimemashita (Nippon Ichi Software)
  • Silent Hill Downpour (Konami)
  • Silent Hill HD Collection (Konami)
  • Nura Rise of the Yokai Clan (Konami)
  • Binary Domain (Sega)
  • Lollipop Chainsaw (Kadokawa Shoten)
  • Robotics; Notes (5pb.)
  • Beyond the Future (5pb.)
  • Ridge Racer: Unbounded (Namco-Bandai)
  • Dancing Eyes (Namco-Bandai)
  • Ao no Eiyuu: Birds of Steel (Konami)
  • Shin Kamaitachi no Yoru: Jyuichi-nin-me no Suspect (Chunsoft)
  • Blaze of Time (Konami)
  • The House of the Dead: Overkill - Extended Cut (Sega)
  • Sonic Generations (Sega)
  • Daisenryaku Perfect: Senjou no Hasha (SystemSoft Alpha)
  • Devil's Third (Valhalla Game Studios/THQ)
  • Inversion (Namco-Bandai)
  • Hitman: Absolution (Square-Enix)
  • Tomb Raider (Square-Enix)
  • Aliens: Colonial Marines (Sega)
  • NeverDead (Konami)
  • The Cursed Crusade (Atlus) 07/10
  • Time Leap (Prototype)
  • Gladiator Versus (Acquire)
  • Let's Touch! Love Application (Compile Heart)
  • BlazBlue Continuum Shift Extend (Arc System Works)
  • Utawarerumono 2 (Aquaplus)
  • Tears to Tiara 2 (Aquaplus)
  • Suigetsu 2 (Temple Knights)
  • Winning Post 201X (Tecmo-Koei)
  • Pachipara Sea Story SLOT (Irem)

Wii:

  • Rodea the Sky Soldier (Kadokawa Shoten)
  • Winning Eleven 201X (Konami)
  • Sengoku Basara 3 Utage (Capcom)
  • Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes Fourze (Namco-Bandai)
  • Go Vacation (Namco-Bandai)
  • Magical Carnival Portable (Namco-Bandai)



Platform Count:

PS3 - 77
Wii - 8

Publisher Count (Major Publishers Only):

Square-Enix

PS3 - 6
Wii - 1

Capcom

PS3 - 9
Wii - 1

Namco-Bandai

PS3 - 17
Wii - 4

Konami

PS3 - 11
Wii - 1

Tecmo-Koei

PS3 - 5
Wii - 0

Sega

PS3 - 5
Wii - 0

Level  5

PS3 - 1
Wii - 0

Atlus

PS3 - 2
Wii - 0

 



Proud poster of the 10000th reply at the Official Smash Bros Update Thread.

tag - "I wouldn't trust gamespot, even if it was a live comparison."

Bets with Conegamer:

Pandora's Tower will have an opening week of less than 37k in Japan. (Won!)
Pandora's Tower will sell less than 100k lifetime in Japan.
Stakes: 1 week of avatar control for each one.

Fullfilled Prophecies

Wii doesn't even try anymore...



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW! 
 


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PS3, despite being down more than Wii, beats it again.



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW! 
 


Wii makes a bigger effort this time, but not enough yet, PS3 wins again.



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW! 
 


Lol... wondering if thw wii will get at least 1 week



Gee, I wonder who will win?



kopstudent89 said:
Lol... wondering if thw wii will get at least 1 week

Maybe from the end of November to the end of December it has some serious chances to win two or more (playing its cards very well) weeks (Zelda and Mario&Sonic releases plus usual Xmas boost).



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW!