ARPG grnding beats it ;)

No, it doesn't.

In action RPGs, you don't feel that patiente achievement because it's faster.

I guess grinding.

I do not like grinding, it gets really boring after a long time.

I would much rather be challenged.

No, you just look at your gorgeous stats and cash to achieve the same feeling ;)

Grind in Star Ocean or Tales games. Grinding at its finest!

I like grinding but what I really admire (or hope to see in RPG's) is balance of everything. I being challenged too.

I almost fell asleep reading your post. Boring xD

Challenged. Play The Last Remnant and not grind. My god that shit is hard.

Metal Slime grinding

im playing phantom brave right now and it really shows me how to appreciate a good challenge. the stages are set up in almost puzzles, and you have to think your way through obv you can grind your way through, but if you dont want to you dont have to. its nice to use tricks and techniques and have an edge of your seat, close fight in a game.