i hope sony wins and geohotz gets ordered to pay what amount sony wants and also gets thrown in jail for at least 5 years if not more. what he did, i think is very wrong and i hope the law gets changed to defend the consoles and handhelds as well.

Makes sense but haven't people had the same problem with assignning some sort of jurisdiction to a state due to some massive website's HQ being there? Especially when it's not even the website's owners suing. Seems a right mess!

Would things be very different for Sony in NJ? Somehow I don't believe Sony is letting go even if the case gets dismissed in CA.

Aren't people who sign software for PS3 with Sony's keys and distribute/sell that software supposed to sign some kind of contract with Sony and probably pay royalties to Sony?

I just made that up :P

"But hacking or jailbreaking an iPhone so it will run apps not authorized by Apple is neither a civil nor criminal offense. The U.S. Copyright Office made that activity lawful in July."

oh I thought it was just one court rulling that apple didn't oppose.... if it's the copyright office then sony is done for, there's no reason why a device can be legally jailbreaked and not all the other ones.

no cause keys are just a number.... not lines of code or anything like that.

It should have been a randomized number produced by a propretary code... but it's just a random number... so not the property of anyone

(at least that is what I understood)

it's not a fair assesment.

he's mistaking AT&T and Apple. Apple doesn't force you to stick with them even after the contract ended, cause you don't have a contract with apple in the first place (well for itune and ios use, but not the iphone) Jailbreaking doesn't mean you change phone company (the one there is a contract with).

same as you can only buy games sold by sony, on an iphone you can only buys apps (this include games) sold by apple (even if some are free). jailbreaking and Iphone and hackin a PS3 is essentialy the same thing.

In essence, the Iphone and the PS3 are both modified PCs, one as a highly portable device, the other as a media center.

If sony lose....bring on the pirate storm >_>

That's pretty cool that they used all free software for it which is great for the point they're trying to make. I'd have to wonder what the balance is for this issue, but I don't exactly know enough about it all. I understand the protection, but it seems like it's so complex and abused to perhaps stifle the people creating.

I wouldn't have expected a huge budget, but like I said, it still looked unfinished. I was interested in their message, but the project really needs another pass.

Sony are still going to get pirated even if they win. I don't see how geo losing (which is very unlikely, I think) is going to stop all the potential pirates.

george should shut up

people bought consoles to have fun on it

i don wanna buy a new console just becasue sony found no way to stop this hack and decides to release a new console or just stops with the whole console idea in total after the disaster that took the psp