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pizzahut451 said:

Except that they werent neither separatist group(becaue they didnt discriminate any other race, nation,or religion) or exremist (they didnt go around planting bombs, killing hunderds of civilians and anyoone who doesnt agree with them). Like I sad, they have some similarities with terrorists, but they werent that extreme and dangerous.  How many times in history did a man from Roaylity  got killed by an assasin??? Tell me exactly, what make one group a terrorist group? Killing a man? NO

A separatist group is a group that wants a particular territory to separate from the sovereign nation. It has nothing to do with discrimatin anyone. And they were extremists, because assassination politicians is an extremist gesture. Terrorism is a spectrum, and they were certainly on that spectrum.



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sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:

Except that they werent neither separatist group(becaue they didnt discriminate any other race, nation,or religion) or exremist (they didnt go around planting bombs, killing hunderds of civilians and anyoone who doesnt agree with them). Like I sad, they have some similarities with terrorists, but they werent that extreme and dangerous.  How many times in history did a man from Roaylity  got killed by an assasin??? Tell me exactly, what make one group a terrorist group? Killing a man? NO

A separatist group is a group that wants a particular territory to separate from the sovereign nation. It has nothing to do with discrimatin anyone. And they were extremists, because assassination politicians is an extremist gesture. Terrorism is a spectrum, and they were certainly on that spectrum.


They wanted to be seperated from an empire that conquerd and enslaved their land and opressed their citizens. Yeah, big crime. And would you also call all those people who tried to kill Hitler a terrorist? Killing a politician isnt alwyas an terrorist gesture. Would you also call Milos Obilic, the assasinator of Ottoman sultan Murad I a terrorist?



sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:

Except that they werent neither separatist group(becaue they didnt discriminate any other race, nation,or religion) or exremist (they didnt go around planting bombs, killing hunderds of civilians and anyoone who doesnt agree with them). Like I sad, they have some similarities with terrorists, but they werent that extreme and dangerous.  How many times in history did a man from Roaylity  got killed by an assasin??? Tell me exactly, what make one group a terrorist group? Killing a man? NO

A separatist group is a group that wants a particular territory to separate from the sovereign nation. It has nothing to do with discrimatin anyone. And they were extremists, because assassination politicians is an extremist gesture. Terrorism is a spectrum, and they were certainly on that spectrum.


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pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:

Except that they werent neither separatist group(becaue they didnt discriminate any other race, nation,or religion) or exremist (they didnt go around planting bombs, killing hunderds of civilians and anyoone who doesnt agree with them). Like I sad, they have some similarities with terrorists, but they werent that extreme and dangerous.  How many times in history did a man from Roaylity  got killed by an assasin??? Tell me exactly, what make one group a terrorist group? Killing a man? NO

A separatist group is a group that wants a particular territory to separate from the sovereign nation. It has nothing to do with discrimatin anyone. And they were extremists, because assassination politicians is an extremist gesture. Terrorism is a spectrum, and they were certainly on that spectrum.


They wanted to be seperated from an empire that conquerd and enslaved their land and opressed their citizens. Yeah, big crime. And would you also call all those people who tried to kill Hitler a terrorist? Killing a politician isnt alwyas an terrorist gesture. Would you also call Milos Obilic, the assasinator of Ottoman sultan Murad I a terrorist?

Yes they are terrorists. And all the other people you mentioned are also terrorists.

And you can't "enslave" land BTW.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:

Except that they werent neither separatist group(becaue they didnt discriminate any other race, nation,or religion) or exremist (they didnt go around planting bombs, killing hunderds of civilians and anyoone who doesnt agree with them). Like I sad, they have some similarities with terrorists, but they werent that extreme and dangerous.  How many times in history did a man from Roaylity  got killed by an assasin??? Tell me exactly, what make one group a terrorist group? Killing a man? NO

A separatist group is a group that wants a particular territory to separate from the sovereign nation. It has nothing to do with discrimatin anyone. And they were extremists, because assassination politicians is an extremist gesture. Terrorism is a spectrum, and they were certainly on that spectrum.


They wanted to be seperated from an empire that conquerd and enslaved their land and opressed their citizens. Yeah, big crime. And would you also call all those people who tried to kill Hitler a terrorist? Killing a politician isnt alwyas an terrorist gesture. Would you also call Milos Obilic, the assasinator of Ottoman sultan Murad I a terrorist?

Yes they are terrorists. And all the other people you mentioned are also terrorists.

And you can't "enslave" land BTW.


Than you have very wrong definition of a terrorist than



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pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:

Except that they werent neither separatist group(becaue they didnt discriminate any other race, nation,or religion) or exremist (they didnt go around planting bombs, killing hunderds of civilians and anyoone who doesnt agree with them). Like I sad, they have some similarities with terrorists, but they werent that extreme and dangerous.  How many times in history did a man from Roaylity  got killed by an assasin??? Tell me exactly, what make one group a terrorist group? Killing a man? NO

A separatist group is a group that wants a particular territory to separate from the sovereign nation. It has nothing to do with discrimatin anyone. And they were extremists, because assassination politicians is an extremist gesture. Terrorism is a spectrum, and they were certainly on that spectrum.


They wanted to be seperated from an empire that conquerd and enslaved their land and opressed their citizens. Yeah, big crime. And would you also call all those people who tried to kill Hitler a terrorist? Killing a politician isnt alwyas an terrorist gesture. Would you also call Milos Obilic, the assasinator of Ottoman sultan Murad I a terrorist?

Yes they are terrorists. And all the other people you mentioned are also terrorists.

And you can't "enslave" land BTW.


Than you have very wrong definition of a terrorist than

I think that applies to you, considering that everyone describes them as a terrorist organisation. I know why you refuse to believe that they were terrorists, but THEY WERE TERRORISTS. Get over your silly nationalism.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:

Except that they werent neither separatist group(becaue they didnt discriminate any other race, nation,or religion) or exremist (they didnt go around planting bombs, killing hunderds of civilians and anyoone who doesnt agree with them). Like I sad, they have some similarities with terrorists, but they werent that extreme and dangerous.  How many times in history did a man from Roaylity  got killed by an assasin??? Tell me exactly, what make one group a terrorist group? Killing a man? NO

A separatist group is a group that wants a particular territory to separate from the sovereign nation. It has nothing to do with discrimatin anyone. And they were extremists, because assassination politicians is an extremist gesture. Terrorism is a spectrum, and they were certainly on that spectrum.


They wanted to be seperated from an empire that conquerd and enslaved their land and opressed their citizens. Yeah, big crime. And would you also call all those people who tried to kill Hitler a terrorist? Killing a politician isnt alwyas an terrorist gesture. Would you also call Milos Obilic, the assasinator of Ottoman sultan Murad I a terrorist?

Yes they are terrorists. And all the other people you mentioned are also terrorists.

And you can't "enslave" land BTW.


Than you have very wrong definition of a terrorist than

I think that applies to you, considering that everyone describes them as a terrorist organisation. I know why you refuse to believe that they were terrorists, but THEY WERE TERRORISTS. Get over your silly nationalism.

What? I hold no sympathy towards them in the slightest. They are responsible for killing thousands of Serbs in Bosnia back than. But today, everything is considerd terrorisam to promote fear and control people. You are blind if you dont see that.



pizzahut451 said:
sapphi_snake said:

I think that applies to you, considering that everyone describes them as a terrorist organisation. I know why you refuse to believe that they were terrorists, but THEY WERE TERRORISTS. Get over your silly nationalism.

What? I hold no sympathy towards them in the slightest. They are responsible for killing thousands of Serbs in Bosnia back than. But today, everything is considerd terrorisam to promote fear and control people. You are blind if you dont see that.

The real problem is that today terrorists are made out to be more dangerous than armies (in the US muslim terrorists are made out to be a bigger threat than the Soviets were; there are people over there who actually think islamic terrorists could invade their country).



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

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http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/04/video-wikileaks-obtains-footage-of-2007-us-army-helicopter-attack-on-reuters-employees-children.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse

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