what does this have to do with me owning a wii?

i didnt mention any wii game reviews because i frankly dont know what wii games got for scores

the only 2 wii games whose general scores i know are SMG and SMG2 because some people mentioned their Metacritics in a GOTY thread

im not complaining about bad review scores either, im just saying that reviews only matter because people read them, if they dont, they have no power and wont matter

I've never understood the idea that a consumer purchase was a sign of good quality.  People buy the games they think are good sure, but if they haven't tried it out before hand they can't know for certain and then that purchase is less a proof that the game is good and deserves sales and more proof that the game is seen as worth a shot. 

I disagree. I'm not putting all my trust into reviews (far from it) but if anything people should stop looking at the damn scores and actually read the reviews instead.

You don't understand.

These peoples have grudge. Their opinion is influenced by irrational reasons.

Toy Story 3 was just one example. 99% of people would disagree with him and with you. Something is wrong.

Now it might happen once that you dislike a movie that is loved by everybody else and it's okay but it's not the case here with Armond White (same thing with Jim Sterling).

Out of the 5 nominees of the Golden Globes for Best Motion Picture, he gave a rotten score to 4 of them. I mean wth?

Being a critic should be a privilege, not a right.

wht are reveiws, but someone elses shoty opinion of a game you may want to purchase.

me myself have been spot on judging games for myself and even based on reveiws.

i trust me my group and a few people here but never a reveiw score, but i still give VGC credit for never giving a 10.

i believe the opposite

i believe that games that sell alot ar good games because it is a testament of their quality

i know people will bring up some shovelware game that sold millions, but that game is good to its audience or else it would not sell as much as it has

i agree a single purchase is not indicative of quality, but once it reaches millions and tens of millions, that product is obviously filling some sort of need and it is filling it well

Or it's very well marketed. 

I can agree that selling really well does lead one to assume that a game is at least good or word of mouth would be poor, but not that it's better than some other game that sold less well. 

The only way that you could directly correlate quality and sales like that would be if every consumer was perfectly informed about every possible game purchase, familiarity with the product was counteracted (people buying sequels to games they enjoyed even if they may not be good games), marketting was forced to be uniform and every consumer got to actually try the game before buying.  Otherwise people are just buying the games they hear about and with minimal research think they want.  For every well informed consumer you have 3 or 4 relatives trying to buy presents for their kids based off the recommendations of Bestbuy staff.  Many games that start doing amazing do so based on word of mouth, but that just means that games that sell well and don't suck will continue to sell well or "the rich get richer". 

Now, if you weren't trying to directly correlate sales and quality like that but only saying that a game that sells multimillions is proof that it doesn't suck than I would largely agree.

I just wish people would quit complaining in threads about not trusting reviews and the review site sucks.  I avoid review threads altogether now because it becomes people complaining and that's it.  I'd love to go to a review thread and discuss what people like and dislike about certain reviews and even a few comments on why they scored the game the way they did.  But no, I just read comments by people whining and it's really annoying.

If I go into a PS3 thread and say the PS3 sucks, I will get banned and it will be justified.  But if I go into an IGN review thread and say IGN sucks, I won't get banned.  That's my only problem with the moderation of this site.  Why is it okay to say IGN sucks but not PS3, Wii, or 360?

game reviews are as neccessary as any sort of criticism in any field, be it comercial products or art(in this case a mix of both)

yea im agreeing with the bold

and im not saying that a game that sold well is better than a game that did not

in fact, there is no empirical way to judge is a game is better when compared to another game, which is another reason why i think reviews should not be read. the score given by a reviewer has no factual bearing on its value, so by not reading them, their influence is diminished, which is the main problem with reviews