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twesterm on 07 January 2011
SamuelRSmith said:
twesterm said:
 

100% agree it won't be as big as PSP and DS, but I would be willing to bet it will be bigger than the Wii and 360, especially if you can run games off your hard drive because then cost is eliminated.  Once you get past a gig, I doubt file size matters for most people since you can start a download before you go to bed and then wake up to a finished download.  And then there's ease-- zero modification to your console and will probably be as easy as just dropping an app into your PS3 through a USB stcik and you're done.


Pretty sure that ISPs would kick off about such large downloads, fair usage policies, and all that.

They can bitch all they want, if they're the one that sold you unlimited usage then they're the ones that have to deal with it. 

If they sent me a letter like that then I would start downloading nonsense 24/7 completely out of spite.



 

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manwhoknowseverythin on 07 January 2011

I don't know why Sony just doesn't leak every game they have on the net with a virus that kills the ps3 making it unplayable, the risk vs reward of pirating would go through the roof and no1 would do it



twesterm on 07 January 2011
manwhoknowseverythin said:

I don't know why Sony just doesn't leak every game they have on the net with a virus that kills the ps3 making it unplayable, the risk vs reward of pirating would go through the roof and no1 would do it

The problem with that is it would be blatantly obvious that they released that with the purpose to destroy peopled PS3's and that would get them in insane amounts of trouble.



 

manwhoknowseverythin on 07 January 2011
twesterm said:
manwhoknowseverythin said:

I don't know why Sony just doesn't leak every game they have on the net with a virus that kills the ps3 making it unplayable, the risk vs reward of pirating would go through the roof and no1 would do it

The problem with that is it would be blatantly obvious that they released that with the purpose to destroy peopled PS3's and that would get them in insane amounts of trouble.

It would only get them in trouble if someone could prove the leak came from Sony, for all anyone else knows it's just a jerk who knows how to pirate and upload games who is great at making viruses, well I admit everyone would realize it's from Sony they still need to prove it 



Ssliasil on 07 January 2011

Firmware updates can fix this, previous updates just used coding that prevented USB devices, very specific Firmware can be used to issue new and more complex memory and key paths that will take months to re-hack.

Thats if the Waste of Human space hackers and pirates want to play online.



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Galaki on 07 January 2011
manwhoknowseverythin said:
twesterm said:
manwhoknowseverythin said:

I don't know why Sony just doesn't leak every game they have on the net with a virus that kills the ps3 making it unplayable, the risk vs reward of pirating would go through the roof and no1 would do it

The problem with that is it would be blatantly obvious that they released that with the purpose to destroy peopled PS3's and that would get them in insane amounts of trouble.

It would only get them in trouble if someone could prove the leak came from Sony, for all anyone else knows it's just a jerk who knows how to pirate and upload games who is great at making viruses, well I admit everyone would realize it's from Sony they still need to prove it 

What makes you think they couldn't trace it back to Sony?



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manwhoknowseverythin on 07 January 2011
Galaki said:
manwhoknowseverythin said:
twesterm said:
manwhoknowseverythin said:

I don't know why Sony just doesn't leak every game they have on the net with a virus that kills the ps3 making it unplayable, the risk vs reward of pirating would go through the roof and no1 would do it

The problem with that is it would be blatantly obvious that they released that with the purpose to destroy peopled PS3's and that would get them in insane amounts of trouble.

It would only get them in trouble if someone could prove the leak came from Sony, for all anyone else knows it's just a jerk who knows how to pirate and upload games who is great at making viruses, well I admit everyone would realize it's from Sony they still need to prove it 

What makes you think they couldn't trace it back to Sony?

Because I think Sony would be smart enough not to upload it from somewhere they officially own and they can always try and use a disgruntled employee as a scapegoat 



Sweep on 07 January 2011
twesterm said:
The Anarchyz said:

25GB Blu-Rays cost that, 50GB Blu-Rays don't...

Wikipedia listed an average of prices, 

  • BD-R/RE internal drive US$99.99–200;[17]
  • 4× single-layer BD-R disc (25 GB) US$2–5 in quantity;[19]
  • 4× double-layer BD-R disc (50 GB) US$12.99 each;[18]
  • 2× single-layer BD-RE disc (25 GB) US$5–12 each;[20]
  • 2× double-layer BD-RE disc (50 GB) US$20–40 each;[21]

 

Of course this can vary, but those are the prices i usually see...

That's what i would do, make games on 50GB discs, even when the game is 6 GB... Real pirates are gonna pirate no matter what, but there are a lot of lazy pirates that on the minor obstacle prefer to buy the game, so they won't burn a $60 game in a $20 disc, and they won't put 30-50GB per game in their drives... 


Except:

  • $20 is less than $60
  • $13 is less than $20, I don't know why you're only considering the RE discs
  • $2 is much less than $13 since from what I hear most games come in under 25GB
  • $5 is still much less than $60 if you're looking for read/writeable discs

You're right that 50GB absolutely do cost more which means they cost the publisher more too.  I have to wonder how much the discs cost them and what that cost is vs the expected amount of piracy.

Also, hard drive space is really cheap.  I can easily find a 1.5TB HDD for under $100 and that would be 30 50gig games right there.  Considering more space is just a delete key away with nothing really lost, I don't think they'd mind even stuffing 4-5 games at a time on a 300gig HDD.

Well Sony could also release games on a new proprietary BRD format, not readable by BRD burners, but only by the PS3 with a firmware update maybe with special size specs (60 GB for example), IIRC the PS3 should be able to read future 100 GB Blu-rays but don't know if those will be standard in the future)



kurasakiichimaru on 07 January 2011
Zlejedi said:

 

It might also delay price cut since Sony will try to profit as much as possible on current skus until they get new one with improved security.

They are probably readying PS3 True Slim V. 1.0  at this point...:D



dsister on 07 January 2011
Sweep said:

Well Sony could also release games on a new proprietary BRD format, not readable by BRD burners, but only by the PS3 with a firmware update maybe with special size specs (60 GB for example), IIRC the PS3 should be able to read future 100 GB Blu-rays but don't know if those will be standard in the future)


And now we are back to using external hard drives. v_v



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