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jarrod said:
4k1x3r said:

There was 17.5m PS2 in Japan when GT4 came out, so with 1/3 of the console and 1/2 of the sales I think it's not bad. I know userbase is not really relevant but it is in Japan, it's a relatively small market with most of the games being frontloaded.

lol, prelaunch whenever anyone posted userbase arguments against GT5 doing as well as GT4, GT cheerleaders would always counter with the PS2 installed base when GT3 launched.  So... how about that?

GT3 had a weaker week than GT4 because of userbase probably but had great legs, but you know what? GT3 came out in the early PS2 days, it's as if GT5 came out in late 2007 on PS3. So people bought it because it was one of the must have back then. And I don't want to analyse something as old as 2001, we lack accurate data and context etc. For the time being don't bring what GT5 cheerleaders always say. I care less.



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ethomaz said:

When over 500k in Japan became a FLOP??? I missed anything.

When it's a series that always clears a million and has gone as high as 2 million before?

The lack of mainstream audience is really hurting PS3's wider appeal games in Japan.  Niche stuff or titles directed at specific hardcore audiences does great usually, but the bigger wider appeal games are mostly underperforming (FFXIII, GT5, etc).  It's almost the opposite problem Wii has, where the hardcore's abandoned it but the mainstream always shows up.



RolStoppable said:
ethomaz said:

When over 500k in Japan became a FLOP??? I missed anything.

When Monster Hunter Tri selling a million in Japan was declared a flop, that's when.


Almost perfectly proportional to their respective consoles Jap user bases: a criterion so precise can only be work of überanalyst Pachter, no fanboy could be so fair and unbiased!   



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pezus said:

Eh, why is it not possible that Sony starts bundling GT5 in Japan just like they did with Prologue??

Prologue was essentially a disposable release, that's why it got an extended bundling.  Sony doesn't do the same for the full releases, even when they bomb hard (see: GT PSP).

Besides, GT5 already had a PS3 bundle, with a new color even... didn't seem to do much.



pezus said:
jarrod said:
pezus said:

Eh, why is it not possible that Sony starts bundling GT5 in Japan just like they did with Prologue??

Prologue was essentially a disposable release, that's why it got an extended bundling.  Sony doesn't do the same for the full releases, even when they bomb hard (see: GT PSP).

Besides, GT5 already had a PS3 bundle, with a new color even... didn't seem to do much.

Limited bundle...

Prologue was disposable? What does that mean really?

All JP PS3 bundles are limited.  So was the GT5P Spec III bundle, and it only moved about 300k total.

By saying Prologue was disposable, I mean it was a budget priced release, and essentially a (huge) demo rather than a full game.  That's why it was given away after it'd finished selling what it could, it was a value adding freebie and not something Sony was really interested in pushing in and of itself.  Maybe GT5 will get to the same point, but GT PSP never did...



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Nope GT5 is doing exactly what I thought it would do.

Big time Christmas present for existing PS3 owners and not moving much additional hardware.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

RolStoppable said:
jarrod said:

All JP PS3 bundles are limited.  So was the GT5P Spec III bundle, and it only moved about 300k total.

By saying Prologue was disposable, I mean it was a budget priced release, and essentially a (huge) demo rather than a full game.  That's why it was given away after it'd finished selling what it could, it was a value adding freebie and not something Sony was really interested in pushing in and of itself.  Maybe GT5 will get to the same point, but GT PSP never did...

GT PSP was part of the "get ten free games with the purchase of a PSP Go" deal, not sure if that's also the case in Japan.

That was Europe, America got a Go bundle with 3 downloads I think?  I don't think Japan saw a similar promotion, but it still wouldn't be like GT5P (which got an actual disc, even though it could've had a DD code).  

I'd forgotten about those Go bundles though, I haven't seen such "desperation bundling" since Sega's epic VF2/Sega Rally/Virtua Cop Saturn deal.



pezus said:
thx1139 said:

Nope GT5 is doing exactly what I thought it would do.

Big time Christmas present for existing PS3 owners and not moving much additional hardware.

Do you know how much PS3 would have sold without it?


No way to track the bundles, but I personally think that it's still the slim effect and the general affordability of PS3 now in most Europe regions, I mean a few days I've seen several deals for PS3 which were on par with the price for a 360 slim. And some old clearance stocks, the 80GB models for as low as £150, a full £50 less than the 360 official price.. Can't comment on the 360 but I think the best deal was about £145 for 4GB and £235 for the Kinect 4GB bundle. To put in perspective, PS3 was offered for £150 for older models and £199.99 for 160/320GB bundles. So in Europe the prices are dangerously close now, thus making PS3 a better investment overall.



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CGI-Quality said:
thx1139 said:

Nope GT5 is doing exactly what I thought it would do.

Big time Christmas present for existing PS3 owners and not moving much additional hardware.

GT5 didn't move just hardware it's release week, it helped to increase it weekly during the holiday, with the PS3 not falling too far behind 2009 levels. Without a price cut, it (and Move) were definite key factors, unless you're suggesting the PS3 stayed close to the previous year's numbers just based on existing merits.

Whatever the case may be, GT5 has contributed to a substantial amount of hardware moving during the 2010 holiday season.

Over and over people said this is when PS3 makes its final push and catches the 360. The fact of the matter is that when consoles have the install base that all 3 consoles have a software title has minimal effect on new hardware sales. The simple fact that the consoles have a good library and more new good software will continue to be released keeps the sales going.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

haters? I thought any haters who hate any  Godly exclusive game from PS3 are asking for automatic death sentence here... /hides

 

 

 

On topic, grats to GT5!