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S.T.A.G.E. on 31 December 2010
AussieGecko said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


The eye toy scans your body in 3d space plus the move remote is used for enhanced movement and control in 3D space. I doubt you even have to use the controller for Dance central. Where Kinect has the edge is only based on the fact that Kinect has not one but two powerful cameras. The Move has far more potential for growth because it uses a powerful camera already and all forms and spaces of the 3d realm you're in can be accessed  and manipulated with the help of the controller. Didn't you watch the Move preview videos before it launched?

Here is where you lose me... Move has more growth because it has more buttons? Is that what you are saying, see you seem to be presenting this as fact even though it sounds like more of an opinion.

This is the biggest thing that frustrates me about this, discussions are fine. But somehow Kinect has game designers impressed even though by your logic just the camera is about the same as the move camera. What absolute horse raddish. Without the move controller, which has the signal response to the camera the move doesnt come close.

It is not that Kinect has 2 cameras it is that Kinect is designed to do a bit by itself. 

It is not the buttons that make Move somewhat accurate, it is the bright light from what I have read, would this be some what accurate. The reason in my opinion why Sony seems to be waging a war against non buttons is not the fact that move is more accurate but that Kinect seems to be showing signs of potential.

Now what you have seen up there is my opinion, not designed to be anything else. 


I would be impressed with Kinect as well if I cared about casual titles. This is why  FAAST is being worked on (Flexible action articulated skeleton toolkit). Hopefully Microsoft buys this so I can see a way out of this.



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AussieGecko on 31 December 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I would be impressed with Kinect as well if I cared about casual titles. This is why  FAAST is being worked on (Flexible action articulated skeleton toolkit). Hopefully Microsoft buys this so I can see a way out of this.


Again they are just the initial games. Rise of Nightmares, youtube it, that is anything but a casual game, the non casual games are coming.



 

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StokedUp on 31 December 2010

I actually said this right at the beginning, and I still believe it will. It is a matter of time before the kinect has controllers so it can do more, it's just far to limited by just motion control.



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Darth Tigris on 31 December 2010

I am SOOOOO glad that most of your aren't game developers.

The POINT of Kinect is to provide experiences different than those that you get with a controller.  DIFFERENT.  So developers are forced to take the strengths and limitations of the platform and create compelling game experiences.  Guess what?  That's what devs do with EVERY platform out there.  EVERY SINGLE ONE has strengths and limitations and such things sometimes bring out the best of developers  when it comes to creativity and pushing technical limitations.

So how about this.  How about we WAIT to see what 2nd generation Kinect games bring to the table before we bang this drum again.  How about we not look at launch games and say that these are the only things the platform is capable of and instead wait and see what the many talented development houses out there that have demonstrated great excitement and interest in developing Kinect games come up with.  Is that too much to ask???



S.T.A.G.E. on 31 December 2010
AussieGecko said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I would be impressed with Kinect as well if I cared about casual titles. This is why  FAAST is being worked on (Flexible action articulated skeleton toolkit). Hopefully Microsoft buys this so I can see a way out of this.


Again they are just the initial games. Rise of Nightmares, youtube it, that is anything but a casual game, the non casual games are coming.


I've seen it. I haven't seen gameplay. As I said I think the FAAST software should fix Kinects problem with manipulating 3D Space. Look it up.



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AussieGecko on 31 December 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I've seen it. I haven't seen gameplay. As I said I think the FAAST software should fix Kinects problem with manipulating 3D Space. Look it up.

Wgat problem you still havent even proved that Eyepet is more accurate then Kinectimals. You are simply going off what you have read. I havent seen one source for the information you're posing. I aint looking at faast until you start getting me sources. Until then I will take it that you don't actually have any sources apart from what Sony has released.



 

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S.T.A.G.E. on 31 December 2010
AussieGecko said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ROBOTECHHEAVEN said:

m$ and kinect dont need something like the crappy move type of controller add-on for it , i have enjoyed kinect very much since i bought it for me and my family. cant stop playing it, and i believe m$ knows how to make its core games work without a need for a add-on ( move controller ) to get the depth and movement u speak of. also m$/kinect has proven sony so wrong on which tech it should have backed with sales speaking very loudly this holiday and i know will continue strong into 2011. 

Actually, MS hasn't proven Sony wrong at  all. They just proved the power of simplicity can win over the masses. Thats about it. Kinect is a media hub as well as a casual gaming experience. This is its true power. I've read reviews and played Kinect in the mall at Macy's. Most reviews of Kinect's titles show massive restriction but moderately high replay value already. You and your partner are scanned into the camera and fixed into a box in which you're restricted to have your motions read. I know Kinect will outsell the Move, this isn't my problem. My problem is that I see no growth. If it was capable of growth Sony would've had it by now.

Coudl it not be that Sony saw Move as very close to Wii thus less risk then Kinect, which is just a camera. One you can guarantee will have a known userbase. GAH this is fun


The Move is the concept of the Wii coupled with a similar concept of the Kinect just with a less powerful camera.



scat398 on 31 December 2010

I agree that hardcore games will come with a kinect controller specifically for FPS and TPS games but I disagree with the notion that Kinect needs this to be succesful. Kinect's core demographic is designed for casual gamers and just like the Wii, it has hit the sweet spot of sales and timing and will continue to be a huge success this coming up year. 

I believe Hardcore gamers will have the option to pick up a new gun peripheral made jointly with MS and the maker of the game, for example, I expect a gears of war gun to be released with Gears of war 3.



AussieGecko on 31 December 2010
scat398 said:

I agree that hardcore games will come with a kinect controller specifically for FPS and TPS games but I disagree with the notion that Kinect needs this to be succesful. Kinect's core demographic is designed for casual gamers and just like the Wii, it has hit the sweet spot of sales and timing and will continue to be a huge success this coming up year. 

I believe Hardcore gamers will have the option to pick up a new gun peripheral made jointly with MS and the maker of the game, for example, I expect a gears of war gun to be released with Gears of war 3.

Gears 3 wont have Kinect support, Cliff Blezinski already said so. "hardcore" games are still possible, just shooters I dont think will be as easy as resident evil type of game, or dancing or sports for example. Will take some thinking I reckon



 

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S.T.A.G.E. on 31 December 2010
AussieGecko said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I've seen it. I haven't seen gameplay. As I said I think the FAAST software should fix Kinects problem with manipulating 3D Space. Look it up.

Wgat problem you still havent even proved that Eyepet is more accurate then Kinectimals. You are simply going off what you have read. I havent seen one source for the information you're posing. I aint looking at faast until you start getting me sources. Until then I will take it that you don't actually have any sources apart from what Sony has released.


Eye pet is more accurate. Thats all I said. I haven't seen any sources from you either. 

Here is faast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62wj8eJ0FHw

As I said, Kinect cannot do it alone. They need to acquire FAAST. I answered my own question essentially. Thanks for the talk though.