Jessman said: Crzzynab is a wanker.... your making it like a religion "non beleivers" dude... do you go to the playstation store every sunday and pray? rant over. Post edited by stof

Man, I would've left it at "you put Liar in a list of good games", but what you posted is taking it too far.

This is your warning Jessman. Bigotry doesn't fly around here. If I see that again you're out of here.

stof said: This is your warning Jessman. Bigotry doesn't fly around here. If I see that again you're out of here.

darn you, you were like 30 seconds faster then me lol. He is lucky you got to him first. I would have banned him ike i did W29 for saying something similar.

 

@topic. From reading everything Mike has said. He is actually correct about 95% of what he has said about the tech specs/working with it. The other 5% is basically opinion.

Anything that devs said about each console should be taken into account because they are the ones who are working with the consoles.

Developers:

EA has a hard time with the PS3.

Ubisoft has minor issues with the PS3 and 360 still.

Activition has no issues with either.

Epic Games has no issues with either console.

Bungie has no issues with the 360

Square Enix has no issues with either the 360 or PS3.

Polyphony Digital had issues making GT5 engine.

Insomiac has no issues with the PS3.

Incognito has no issues with the PS3.

Uberian said: Is MikeB making a living by Defending Playstation3?

No. But I love technology, when I first heard about the Cell I knew this could and should become something special (potential for hefty innovative assynchronous multiprocessing like the original Amiga did in the 80s, a step back towards efficiency and innovation like we saw in the 80s). I hope to see the Cell in many other kinds of products, including consumer upgrade boards for PCs.

My technology background and interest in the Cell have made me quite a PS3 expert, researching every little fact and as somebody who never owned a PS2 and owned various Nintendo consoles I have to give Sony credit where credit it is due, the PS3 rocks from a technological and quality perspective! Kudos to Sony for that, shame on especially many XBox 360 trolls who claimed the machine has fundamental flaws (yes I have looked at this platform as well mostly due to all this misinformation spread by fans, but such fans should investigate their own platform better for flaws) other than immature game engines and software!

MikeB wrote:

Don't get me wrong I am perfectly happy that every PS3 comes with identical high specifications as this offers many benefits for software development. The most popular home computer was the c64, early games for example are a far cry compared to later c64 games truly tapping into the machines limited capabilities:

c64 -Forbidden Forest (1983)
link

VS.

c64 - Creatures 2 (1992)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B6hFXpZ3QBU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0BcIjsp94uM

On the PC with ever changing specs and a (increasingly) resource draining desktop OS, you will never come close to the hardware's true potential.

On the PS3 there's so much headroom the platform can easily last for many years to come rivalling PC solutions. As the technological transition from PS2 to PS3 doesn't have to be evolutionary technically Sony was able to leapfrog current PC technology from many regards, of course being so different this brings some startup problems to the table, gaming engines suddenly need to be radically redesigned to take full advantage. Thus legacy game engines are being moved to the SPEs step by step, each step bringing huge performance gains.

I hope to see a Macintosh-like G5 platform someday with a Cell processor included with the potential of upgrading with as more Cell upgrade board (for example researchers are using multiple PS3s connected to receive a linear increase of performance gains. However I am not that much of a fan of MacOS X, BeOS (RIP, an OS inspired by AmigaOS) could have been a better fit as it's build from ground up to take advantage of mutliple CPUs: "Pervasive multi-threading architecture (operating system is divided into small threads which profit optimally from several CPUs)", early BeBox prototypes had up to 4 CPUs to work with.

Sadly on PowerPC Apple wasn't very friendly towards alternative OS providers taking Be Inc too much resources to continuosly re-engineer drivers and such, so they moved to x86 instead where they got killed by Micro$oft:

Interesting points regarding Be Inc's problems with Microsoft:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/20/be_inc_sues_microsoft/

M$ settled with bankrupt Be Inc for a mere 20 million USD, with Microsoft admitting no wrongdoing.

Regarding Amiga, Gateway former owner of Amiga wanted to reintroduce a new Amiga system based on QNX Neutrino:

Amiga Inc's CTO stated in an interview that Gateway was scared because of Microsoft making threats. It was about Gateway losing good deals on Windows if they would go up against Microsoft. Long after this allegation Gateway got involved in the anti-trust suit against Microsoft. M$ reached a settlement paying $150 million over a 4 years period admitting no wrongdoing.

http://boycottnovell.com/2007/09/01/antitrust-failure/

Uberian said: Is MikeB making a living by Defending Playstation3?

No, he's touching old men for a living.

He's defending Sony, cause MS screwed his family (really sad story, about a boy wishing for cellulite, his amiga, and a broken floppy).

After hearing of the latest movie of Steven Spielberg (a passionate Bluray supporter) he expands his crusade.

He's now defending be os, which stars in Bee-Movie.

 

One thing I have yet to see debunked is the 360 having more memory. Some try to deny it, or pretend that EDRAM does not make up for its small size, even though its speed is the reason further Cell systems are using EDRAM for its main memory, despite the smaller size.