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NotStan on 28 December 2010
M.U.G.E.N said:
NotStan said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
NotStan said:
Shaman said:
NotStan said:

Crysis 2 looks well on it's way to be a flop FW, deserved imho after all the slagging of the established console franchises. The PR is truly horrible, and having seen a few videos I really don't see anything new that it's going to bring to the table.. I personally expected it to be the second coming of Jesus with all the PR surrounding it.

And wow, people honestly expect KZ3 to do well? To put into perspective, Gears 3 which is not coming out for ~10 month has a higher preorders growth.. Not going to doubt that it'll cross 3M, but it'll take its sweet time doing so. 


So selling 3m  isn't "doing well"?

I dont get all the worries tho, looking @ LBP1 FW and LBP2 pre-orders it looks like its going to beat LBP1 FW with america sales alone and KZ3 still has a pretty long week to go.

comparing KZ3 to gears in america? do you want ppl to compare GT5 vs forza  in europe? well do you?

with that said LBP2 is going to beat LBP1 first week with ease and that game sold 4m to date so I dont get whats BAD about this, unless ppl are trying so hard to look for sumthing negative about a ps3 exclusive wouldn't surprise me at all TBH.


Do I look like a care if people compare Forza to GT5 in EMEAA? The reason why I compared KZ3 to Gears was the fact that they are both relatively close matched(Genre, number of previous releases etc) the major difference being the sales between them, besides an indication of American sales for KZ3 would be a good indication for the EMEAA sales as they are relatively close(If you check the sales) of KZ2, and the American preorders is the only source of information we have prior to the release of the game. You ask the question like you want someone to feed crow to each other over which exclusive does better on which console, I made an observation and put a validated example, you on the other hand went on the whole "WE MUST DEFEND AUR CONSULZ". As I said, the comparison between Forza and GT does not bother me in the slightest, so feel free to do so.


>_> you DID bring in the will kz3 do well argument into play here...the game will do fine...over and over again people doubt game sales for ps3 exclusives and over and over again they have been proven wrong. KZ3 won't sell anywhere neat Gears, DUH! but will do fine in sales? Absolutely

and this bs of brining in console warrior accusations is silly. You are also getting worked up here, you are by no means in a position to point fingers at others

What are you serious? Did I bring out in return something like "compare Halo and resistance in America", really he jumped gun on this without having a theoretical argument, instead he decided to cite the GT5 vs Forza sales, as I said before, the reason why I compared Gears and KZ3 was the fact that they experience similar pros and are the closest games to direct competition, I think I am in such a position as I did not make a statement such as he did, following with the provocative question "well do you?" as if it would shut me up if he did.


you compared sales of kz3 sales to Gears. Which is fine. But you chose that to enforce your opinion that KZ will not be a 'success', which is utter nonsense. sales wise Gears will be bigger without a doubt. Quality is subjective. But on both accounts KZ3 will be far from a failure.

By "Well" I implied in a region of UC2 or 5-6M, note that I did put "Not going to doubt that it will cross 3M.."



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jarrod on 28 December 2010

Booooring! 3DS can't get here soon enough...



Notorius.A.i.G on 28 December 2010

I don't know why people are getting worried over KZ3 when it has nine weeks left until release. Pre - orders are slow in this time of year.  



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M.U.G.E.N on 28 December 2010
NotStan said:
M.U.G.E.N said:


you compared sales of kz3 sales to Gears. Which is fine. But you chose that to enforce your opinion that KZ will not be a 'success', which is utter nonsense. sales wise Gears will be bigger without a doubt. Quality is subjective. But on both accounts KZ3 will be far from a failure.

By "Well" I implied in a region of UC2 or 5-6M, note that I did put "Not going to doubt that it will cross 3M.."

3m is good for any game to be a success. Again it doesn't need to do the same numbers as genre leaders (sales wise) to be a sucess.



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homer on 28 December 2010
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

beyblade!?


I preordered it.



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Psyberius on 28 December 2010
A Bad Clown said:

lol @ beyblade out selling DC Universe.

I'm getting kind of worried for LBP2, I'm glad they delayed it though. If it was released November it would have flopped harder than a Kevin Smith movie.

Why do you say that?  Sony isn't exactly rolling in successful exclusives....

Xmas is half the year for a ton of software.



Moren on 28 December 2010

Dang this is sooooooo boring........ luckily 3ds is around the corner



Shaman on 28 December 2010
NotStan said:
Shaman said:
NotStan said:

Crysis 2 looks well on it's way to be a flop FW, deserved imho after all the slagging of the established console franchises. The PR is truly horrible, and having seen a few videos I really don't see anything new that it's going to bring to the table.. I personally expected it to be the second coming of Jesus with all the PR surrounding it.

And wow, people honestly expect KZ3 to do well? To put into perspective, Gears 3 which is not coming out for ~10 month has a higher preorders growth.. Not going to doubt that it'll cross 3M, but it'll take its sweet time doing so. 


So selling 3m  isn't "doing well"?

I dont get all the worries tho, looking @ LBP1 FW and LBP2 pre-orders it looks like its going to beat LBP1 FW with america sales alone and KZ3 still has a pretty long week to go.

comparing KZ3 to gears in america? do you want ppl to compare GT5 vs forza  in europe? well do you?

with that said LBP2 is going to beat LBP1 first week with ease and that game sold 4m to date so I dont get whats BAD about this, unless ppl are trying so hard to look for sumthing negative about a ps3 exclusive wouldn't surprise me at all TBH.


Do I look like a care if people compare Forza to GT5 in EMEAA? The reason why I compared KZ3 to Gears was the fact that they are both relatively close matched(Genre, number of previous releases etc) the major difference being the sales between them, besides an indication of American sales for KZ3 would be a good indication for the EMEAA sales as they are relatively close(If you check the sales) of KZ2, and the American preorders is the only source of information we have prior to the release of the game. You ask the question like you want someone to feed crow to each other over which exclusive does better on which console, I made an observation and put a validated example, you on the other hand went on the whole "WE MUST DEFEND AUR CONSULZ". As I said, the comparison between Forza and GT does not bother me in the slightest, so feel free to do so.

WTF are you talking about "we must defend out conzul?".

Your compairing Gears to KZ in america every body knows Gears is a bigger franchise,its like compairing GT5 to Forza which is pointless since every one know GT>>>> FORZA dont you get it?



NotStan on 29 December 2010
Shaman said:
NotStan said:
Shaman said:
NotStan said:

Crysis 2 looks well on it's way to be a flop FW, deserved imho after all the slagging of the established console franchises. The PR is truly horrible, and having seen a few videos I really don't see anything new that it's going to bring to the table.. I personally expected it to be the second coming of Jesus with all the PR surrounding it.

And wow, people honestly expect KZ3 to do well? To put into perspective, Gears 3 which is not coming out for ~10 month has a higher preorders growth.. Not going to doubt that it'll cross 3M, but it'll take its sweet time doing so. 


So selling 3m  isn't "doing well"?

I dont get all the worries tho, looking @ LBP1 FW and LBP2 pre-orders it looks like its going to beat LBP1 FW with america sales alone and KZ3 still has a pretty long week to go.

comparing KZ3 to gears in america? do you want ppl to compare GT5 vs forza  in europe? well do you?

with that said LBP2 is going to beat LBP1 first week with ease and that game sold 4m to date so I dont get whats BAD about this, unless ppl are trying so hard to look for sumthing negative about a ps3 exclusive wouldn't surprise me at all TBH.


Do I look like a care if people compare Forza to GT5 in EMEAA? The reason why I compared KZ3 to Gears was the fact that they are both relatively close matched(Genre, number of previous releases etc) the major difference being the sales between them, besides an indication of American sales for KZ3 would be a good indication for the EMEAA sales as they are relatively close(If you check the sales) of KZ2, and the American preorders is the only source of information we have prior to the release of the game. You ask the question like you want someone to feed crow to each other over which exclusive does better on which console, I made an observation and put a validated example, you on the other hand went on the whole "WE MUST DEFEND AUR CONSULZ". As I said, the comparison between Forza and GT does not bother me in the slightest, so feel free to do so.

WTF are you talking about "we must defend out conzul?".

Your compairing Gears to KZ in america every body knows Gears is a bigger franchise,its like compairing GT5 to Forza which is pointless since every one know GT>>>> FORZA dont you get it?

Since you don't seem to understand why I did this, can you find me a game on that list that has similar traits as KZ3:

-Console exclusivity

-Sci Fi Shooter

-Established franchise(3rd or higher instalment)

-Appears on the chart.

For some reason you brought GT5 and Forza into the argument ending it with a phrase "Well do you?" as if you did it would kill me inside and I'll break down crying. 

Why I Compared Gears 3 to KZ3?

-They are both console exclusive, they are both scifi shooters, they are both on the 3rd franchise(PSP excluded), and they both appeared in the top 30 chart, and this is as close comparison as you can get to approximate the sales that would ensure for BOTH the America and EMEAA as the sales in those regions differ by ~50k, unless ofcourse I unearth the KZ2 preorder numbers, which is a lot more effort.



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Shaman on 29 December 2010
NotStan said:
Shaman said:
NotStan said:
Shaman said:
NotStan said:

Crysis 2 looks well on it's way to be a flop FW, deserved imho after all the slagging of the established console franchises. The PR is truly horrible, and having seen a few videos I really don't see anything new that it's going to bring to the table.. I personally expected it to be the second coming of Jesus with all the PR surrounding it.

And wow, people honestly expect KZ3 to do well? To put into perspective, Gears 3 which is not coming out for ~10 month has a higher preorders growth.. Not going to doubt that it'll cross 3M, but it'll take its sweet time doing so. 


So selling 3m  isn't "doing well"?

I dont get all the worries tho, looking @ LBP1 FW and LBP2 pre-orders it looks like its going to beat LBP1 FW with america sales alone and KZ3 still has a pretty long week to go.

comparing KZ3 to gears in america? do you want ppl to compare GT5 vs forza  in europe? well do you?

with that said LBP2 is going to beat LBP1 first week with ease and that game sold 4m to date so I dont get whats BAD about this, unless ppl are trying so hard to look for sumthing negative about a ps3 exclusive wouldn't surprise me at all TBH.


Do I look like a care if people compare Forza to GT5 in EMEAA? The reason why I compared KZ3 to Gears was the fact that they are both relatively close matched(Genre, number of previous releases etc) the major difference being the sales between them, besides an indication of American sales for KZ3 would be a good indication for the EMEAA sales as they are relatively close(If you check the sales) of KZ2, and the American preorders is the only source of information we have prior to the release of the game. You ask the question like you want someone to feed crow to each other over which exclusive does better on which console, I made an observation and put a validated example, you on the other hand went on the whole "WE MUST DEFEND AUR CONSULZ". As I said, the comparison between Forza and GT does not bother me in the slightest, so feel free to do so.

WTF are you talking about "we must defend out conzul?".

Your compairing Gears to KZ in america every body knows Gears is a bigger franchise,its like compairing GT5 to Forza which is pointless since every one know GT>>>> FORZA dont you get it?

Since you don't seem to understand why I did this, can you find me a game on that list that has similar traits as KZ3:

-Console exclusivity

-Sci Fi Shooter

-Established franchise(3rd or higher instalment)

-Appears on the chart.

For some reason you brought GT5 and Forza into the argument ending it with a phrase "Well do you?" as if you did it would kill me inside and I'll break down crying. 

Why I Compared Gears 3 to KZ3?

-They are both console exclusive, they are both scifi shooters, they are both on the 3rd franchise(PSP excluded), and they both appeared in the top 30 chart, and this is as close comparison as you can get to approximate the sales that would ensure for BOTH the America and EMEAA as the sales in those regions differ by ~50k, unless ofcourse I unearth the KZ2 preorder numbers, which is a lot more effort.

still pointless since even if you dont do this comparison the outcome is the same GEARS>KZ sales wise...........

I brought GT5 and forza cause its similar situation when compairing KZ and gears, bigger franchise>>>smaller franchise in sales.