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highwaystar101 on 24 December 2010
Smashed said:

It's the one of the healthiest herbs on this planet, anyone who says otherwise is ignorant and illinformed. There's nothing wrong with smoking weed, why was it created the way it was? It grows that way, you can smoke it that way.

Oh trust me, marijuana that's been used for drugs hasn't been grown naturally in decades.

I'm pro legalisation, but I think if it were to be legalised we'd have to use a plant that hasn't been selectively bred or anything...



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highwaystar101 on 24 December 2010
Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:

Pat Robertson? I would never have guessed it, he's always seemed very conservative. Although I think I only really know him from reading about him during the aftermath of the Haiti earthquake, so I don't really know him that well.


No, your opinion of him is pretty spot on.  More and more people however are realizing the futility of drug legislation.

Yeah, I've noticed the right adopt the pro legalisation position a lot more frequently recently. It's good.



chocoloco on 24 December 2010
highwaystar101 said:
Smashed said:

It's the one of the healthiest herbs on this planet, anyone who says otherwise is ignorant and illinformed. There's nothing wrong with smoking weed, why was it created the way it was? It grows that way, you can smoke it that way.

Oh trust me, marijuana that's been used for drugs hasn't been grown naturally in decades.

I'm pro legalisation, but I think if it were to be legalised we'd have to use a plant that hasn't been selectively bred or anything...

But there are different strains for good reason the main two are indica and stativa. Indica comes from Afganistan and was usually used to make hash. Indica today is most popular in medical marijuana dispenseries because it numbs pain because it is higher (no pun intended) in CBCs CBDs. Stativa is the type that is normally used for reacreational puposes and gives more of a euphoric effect and contains higher THC content. My point is is thatpeople use pot for different purposes especially when it is used medically so there is good reason that it is selectively bred and there are thousands of strains.



easyrider on 24 December 2010
sapphi_snake said:
Joelcool7 said:

Man the US will never beat Canada, we'll legalize pot first (hopefully)

To be honest as long as we tax the shit out of it and bring it under official branding and legal distribution I see nothing wrong with legalizing it. Sure it impedes the mind but alchohol does too and thats legal. Now the police just need a breathalizer device that can sense if you've smoked any cannobis lately (A device I bet already exists I just don't know of it).

Driving under the influence of any mind altering substance should remain illegal.

Also its funny that people talk about the Christian Right? I'm a Christian and a Conservative and I think we should legalize pot. So do many card carrying and elected conservatives (In Canada). Lastly why is everyone who is conservative automatically called the Christian right? Their are Athiest rights, Muslim Rights , Jewish Rights....etc....etc..

But I'm guessing this guy is a Christian and he's right wing so people will call him Christian Right. But its not like Christians are the only right wingers out their.

The most vehement right wingers are Christian. Plus, Conservatism generally has strong ties to religion, as religion is a traditional institution, and Conservatives generally want to protect such institutions, them hating change and progress and all, while cherishing some idyllic past that never really existed.

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Kasz216 on 24 December 2010
easyrider said:
Kasz216 said:
rakugakist said:
Kasz216 said:
rakugakist said:


Kasz216 said:
rakugakist said:
Kasz216 said:
whatever said:
PDF said:

Yes we should legalize and TAX the shit out of it.

Pot smokers dont deserve to go to jail, but since they have less of a positive influence on society we counter balance this with taking all their damn money.

Not sure where your getting this from.  In college, a lot of the smartest people I knew smoked pot.  It seemed very popular among physicists.  I think it was because theoretical physics require quite a bit of imagination to figure things out.  It's quite mind-bending to try and understand some of the complex theories in physics.

Weed doesn't actually make you think any deeper or imaginitive, it just makes you think dumb ideas are smart... try having a philosphy major have a conversation with a bunch of stoners and you'll see what i mean.

Go home and burn half your music, and while you're at it destroy half your games, cause the people that created that shit were probably real fucking high on drugs.

Which has to do with what?  Most music, including "good" music is actually pretty dumb from a pure lyrics department.  I mean, the Killers... how much drugs do you think they do?  Doesn't really change the beat.

Music by design is supposed to be "stupid".  If it's literal, it doesn't lend well because you are disctracted by the lyrics.

And most games... well actually most games if anything don't have stupid ideas anymore... I much perfered it when they did because that meant more time was spent on gameplay.

Was Miyamoto high when he came up with SMB?  Probably, the idea isn't want makes SMB what it is though.  It's the gameplay.

 

The Killers?  Seriously?  Okay.

You made a comment about drugs making people imaginative, and then go to talk about "stupid" ideas, and music and games having "stupid" ideas.  I'm starting to wonder if you're high.

My comment had nothing to do with people acting stupid when they're high.  My comment was about positive and creative ideas stemming while people are high, which has happened for centuries, no matter what the drug is.

Drugs can cause a positive influence on society.

And, Miyamoto.  Come on, he created the gameplay.

I bet he wasn't high at work while he was doing it.  ANYTHING can cause a positive influence on society, including murder.  The question was  the chances  vs positive vs negative influence.

Wow.

Comparing murder to marijuana is a pretty big step.

Does marijuana cause people to act slow, stupid, and lazy?  Yes, everybody knows that, but so does television.

I do agree with you on one point, that it is the person's right to choose.  I just think you're overlooking the positive outcomes that marijuana has had on this society.  And, I'm not talking about the KIllers.

Weed doesn't create talent, but it helps some people present it.  It helps imaginations run wild and brings out the deepest in some people, thus it makes them more imaginative.

That's all my argument is. I'm also not talking about stupid stoner philosophy students that come up with a basic idea and think it's genius because they go, "Whoa, man..."

I
Bolded I agree with.  TV as well has more negatives then positives.  Though I do like me some TV.  You don't think the world would be a better place if less people watched TV?  Most things people want to do are at a net negative. 

Italicized I do not.

Marijuna brings out creativity in the same way cigarettes relax people and alchohol makes people more social.

Most of it is a placebo effect, and the rest is the fact that you've gotten so addicted to the product that you have problems without it purely BECAUSE of your addiction.


SO why not legalize it and take the power from the powerful brutal mexican mafia. What about cancer and people that can't eat. Relaxing stressed muscle's, helping sleeping desorder. I can go on and on about the positive side that doesn't include horrible side effects such as sleeping pills and others that can help you sleep but swell up your tongue and kill you in your sleep.

just watch tv, look at all the side effects from the drugs that marijuana can cure. you are really demonizing pot here.

Same people that will take tylenol with no problem, when it eats away your stomach and can cause damage to your liver and kidneys. But hey lets go after the potheads.

this was never about pot being bad but about hemp selling and taking over paper. lOOk it up.

I don't think  you've actually read the thread, because I'm for legalizing Mariujauana.

I'm for legalizing heroin.

 

The difference is I don't use it so I don't need to make self rationalizations nor do I need to exagerrate reasons or pretend it's some sort of wonder cure all with no negative effects.



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easyrider on 24 December 2010
Kasz216 said:
easyrider said:
Kasz216 said:
rakugakist said:
Kasz216 said:
rakugakist said:


Kasz216 said:
rakugakist said:
Kasz216 said:
whatever said:
PDF said:

Yes we should legalize and TAX the shit out of it.

Pot smokers dont deserve to go to jail, but since they have less of a positive influence on society we counter balance this with taking all their damn money.

Not sure where your getting this from.  In college, a lot of the smartest people I knew smoked pot.  It seemed very popular among physicists.  I think it was because theoretical physics require quite a bit of imagination to figure things out.  It's quite mind-bending to try and understand some of the complex theories in physics.

Weed doesn't actually make you think any deeper or imaginitive, it just makes you think dumb ideas are smart... try having a philosphy major have a conversation with a bunch of stoners and you'll see what i mean.

Go home and burn half your music, and while you're at it destroy half your games, cause the people that created that shit were probably real fucking high on drugs.

Which has to do with what?  Most music, including "good" music is actually pretty dumb from a pure lyrics department.  I mean, the Killers... how much drugs do you think they do?  Doesn't really change the beat.

Music by design is supposed to be "stupid".  If it's literal, it doesn't lend well because you are disctracted by the lyrics.

And most games... well actually most games if anything don't have stupid ideas anymore... I much perfered it when they did because that meant more time was spent on gameplay.

Was Miyamoto high when he came up with SMB?  Probably, the idea isn't want makes SMB what it is though.  It's the gameplay.

 

The Killers?  Seriously?  Okay.

You made a comment about drugs making people imaginative, and then go to talk about "stupid" ideas, and music and games having "stupid" ideas.  I'm starting to wonder if you're high.

My comment had nothing to do with people acting stupid when they're high.  My comment was about positive and creative ideas stemming while people are high, which has happened for centuries, no matter what the drug is.

Drugs can cause a positive influence on society.

And, Miyamoto.  Come on, he created the gameplay.

I bet he wasn't high at work while he was doing it.  ANYTHING can cause a positive influence on society, including murder.  The question was  the chances  vs positive vs negative influence.

Wow.

Comparing murder to marijuana is a pretty big step.

Does marijuana cause people to act slow, stupid, and lazy?  Yes, everybody knows that, but so does television.

I do agree with you on one point, that it is the person's right to choose.  I just think you're overlooking the positive outcomes that marijuana has had on this society.  And, I'm not talking about the KIllers.

Weed doesn't create talent, but it helps some people present it.  It helps imaginations run wild and brings out the deepest in some people, thus it makes them more imaginative.

That's all my argument is. I'm also not talking about stupid stoner philosophy students that come up with a basic idea and think it's genius because they go, "Whoa, man..."

I
Bolded I agree with.  TV as well has more negatives then positives.  Though I do like me some TV.  You don't think the world would be a better place if less people watched TV?  Most things people want to do are at a net negative. 

Italicized I do not.

Marijuna brings out creativity in the same way cigarettes relax people and alchohol makes people more social.

Most of it is a placebo effect, and the rest is the fact that you've gotten so addicted to the product that you have problems without it purely BECAUSE of your addiction.


SO why not legalize it and take the power from the powerful brutal mexican mafia. What about cancer and people that can't eat. Relaxing stressed muscle's, helping sleeping desorder. I can go on and on about the positive side that doesn't include horrible side effects such as sleeping pills and others that can help you sleep but swell up your tongue and kill you in your sleep.

just watch tv, look at all the side effects from the drugs that marijuana can cure. you are really demonizing pot here.

Same people that will take tylenol with no problem, when it eats away your stomach and can cause damage to your liver and kidneys. But hey lets go after the potheads.

this was never about pot being bad but about hemp selling and taking over paper. lOOk it up.

I don't think  you've actually read the thread, because I'm for legalizing Mariujauana.

I'm for legalizing heroin.

 

The difference is I don't use it so I don't need to make self rationalizations nor do I need to exagerrate reasons or pretend it's some sort of wonder cure all with no negative effects.

I agree it's not a wonder cure but it does help people eat when they can't and a little help like that can help. I would totally desagree on the heroin point of view because we tried it with a drug called coke and it f'ed a lot of people up.



Lostplanet22 on 24 December 2010

This thread makes me wants to smoke some



 

bannedagain on 24 December 2010

Man after this news. what will it take.



Joelcool7 on 24 December 2010
sapphi_snake said:
Joelcool7 said:

Man the US will never beat Canada, we'll legalize pot first (hopefully)

To be honest as long as we tax the shit out of it and bring it under official branding and legal distribution I see nothing wrong with legalizing it. Sure it impedes the mind but alchohol does too and thats legal. Now the police just need a breathalizer device that can sense if you've smoked any cannobis lately (A device I bet already exists I just don't know of it).

Driving under the influence of any mind altering substance should remain illegal.

Also its funny that people talk about the Christian Right? I'm a Christian and a Conservative and I think we should legalize pot. So do many card carrying and elected conservatives (In Canada). Lastly why is everyone who is conservative automatically called the Christian right? Their are Athiest rights, Muslim Rights , Jewish Rights....etc....etc..

But I'm guessing this guy is a Christian and he's right wing so people will call him Christian Right. But its not like Christians are the only right wingers out their.

The most vehement right wingers are Christian. Plus, Conservatism generally has strong ties to religion, as religion is a traditional institution, and Conservatives generally want to protect such institutions, them hating change and progress and all, while cherishing some idyllic past that never really existed.

Maybe Christians are the majority because the US is predominantly Christian. But other countries other religions take the right and left sides.

Thats a fairly offensive view as to what Conservatives are about. But then again neither of us are american. Here in Canada I am Conservative but in the US I would be Democrat. Still I gotta say Conserving our countries laws, history etc...etc.. is really important to me.

But as I said in Canada I'm a card carrying Conservative but in the US I'd be Democrat. I think its sort of hard to stereo type all Conservatives or Democrats into bunchs. Politicians and voters all have their own opinions and people of all faiths and beliefs belong to all sides.



-JC7

"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer

 

Ferryarthur on 24 December 2010
TX109 said:

brings me back to health class: "Pot is one of the worst things you can possibly do to yourself! 1 hit and your automatically hooked forever and will slowly melt away into a useless pile of diseased flesh"...im pretty much summarizing my health teacher and the school nurse's words. of course, this is the same nurse who believes that if you drink even one beer in a month, your an alcoholic...

pot will become legal(probably with a little hitch that says you have to be so-so years old to do it) and everybody will do it for a year. then most will stop because it wont be as fun since it isnt illegal. i personally wont smoke it. smoking is gross. but good for those who will get a kick out of this.


It will actually grow, and it will attract drug tourists. I live in the country where weed is legal, more or less. Drug dealers will get a harder life and start to deal in heavy shit or find a new job. Kids will get their older friends to get the drugs for them. That's if they will allow shops to sell it at least. If it's just the plants, It won't change a thing. Now people smoke it everywhere, in front of school, in their cars. Everywhere, It's like the paradise of being high here. But it didn't help this country much, they even want to reverse it a bit.