what,did you even get what he meant?

he meant adjustments to VGC numbers of sold games

for example last week GT5 and KINECT were adjusted down.

Nice :). Enough said.

the overshippzzzz mantra eh? :D have been here for like, an year or so? and have heard that so so many times it's not even funny anymore...well maybe a little funny

Good to know that Sony are still on track.it's all about EMEAA imo...sales of PS2 and even games like GTASA should give people an idea of how strong the PS brand is in those region...

Ha! I expect major meltdowns when Oct-Dec quarter report comes in.

Some people really stand behind this sites numbers. I mean what is the buffer zone from ship/sold 1m to 1.5m?

Geez some people people can't deal with a third place console's success.

More channel stuffing excuses?  Ever since the slim was released, we've been hearing that Sony stuffs the channels from some people.

Channel stuffing only works in the short run, not the long run.  With every quarter that the PS3 ships more than expected, you have to somewhere assume they are being sold to consumers.  Retailers have their pull in the deal.

And as someone else said, just because the US is one console's most important region doesn't mean it is for the PS3.  All the smaller developing countries have something to do with PS3's numbers.

Lol, let me rephrase :

"Are you saying 2011 will be the best year of the PS3 ?"

"Honestly that sounds pretty similar to what was said about 2008/9/10 being the best years of the PS3 (btw when did it, according to you, "hit the gutter" ?)."

How many M's will they need to sell till march then? Seems like a doable target, especially if the shipped numbers are taken into account, so adding 1m on top of the VGC numbers. Don't think they're stuffing the channel, most likely just shipping to countries that VGChartz does not have the ability nor probably the desire to track.. I am looking at you QATAR -.-

The point that confuses some people is that all the numbers we get point in a totally different direction than Sonys numbers. Please do not point your fingers at someone who is confused by this. This is not a defense mode, just a simple question.

NPD showed PS3 in a very distant 3rd place and more or less flat for the year.
Media Create showed PS3 in decline. Being down YoY I think due to FFXIII last year.
The UK numbers we get show PS3 in third place.

Now Sony reports shipped numbers and suddenly the PS3 is outselling the Wii by quite a big margin. So I want to know where those PS3s are sold. Somewhere in Africa? not a big enough market. South America where you have to pay $1000 per console? Mexico is more a Xbox360 country.

I think nobody really knows including VGC.

I am not saying overshipped stuff, even though I wouldn't be surprised if Sony calculated things differently. It just puzzles me.